Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and more

Corel Paint Shop Pro

Moderator: Kathy_9

LeviFiction
Advisor
Posts: 6831
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:07 pm
operating_system: Windows 10
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Alienware M17xR4
processor: Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU - 2_40GH
ram: 6 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M
sound_card: Sound Blaster Recon3Di
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 500GB
Corel programs: PSP: 8-2023
Location: USA

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by LeviFiction »

Or a harder bug to correct than the others. It's been months since the last update with constant guarantees by the technical support people that a third patch is on the way. Let us not make assumptions about the motives behind some fixes over others, it just lends itself to negative feelings that may or may not be necessary. Best to wait and find out.
https://levifiction.wordpress.com/
graemeb
Posts: 2
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:43 am
operating_system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: gigabyte ga-x58a-ud5
processor: intel i7 960
ram: 6 GB
Video Card: nvidia geforce gtx 465
sound_card: m-audio profire 610
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 2 TB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by graemeb »

I wanted to add my voice to the growing list of unhappy users. I have used Paint Shop Pro as my preferred editing tool from the days of PSP v6! I have now shelved PSP X3 and am using another program because I canot rely on PaintShop any more. This most basic bug (cut & paste and lose pixels) should never have passed a beta test, and yet here we are many months after release and it is still not addressed. Sorry guys - this was my last Corel purchase. :(
LeviFiction
Advisor
Posts: 6831
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:07 pm
operating_system: Windows 10
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Alienware M17xR4
processor: Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU - 2_40GH
ram: 6 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M
sound_card: Sound Blaster Recon3Di
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 500GB
Corel programs: PSP: 8-2023
Location: USA

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by LeviFiction »

They didn't miss this during the beta test. It wasn't beta tested. Personally I'll wait to see what happens before X4 and after X4 before deciding how I will purchase from Corel this time around. There are a lot of larger problems not yet addressed and I'm not ready to believe its because of lack of trying. If they don't fix these issues before X4 then yes I'm not going to deal with them. If they fix it but X4 also doesn't beta and turns out just as bad then I will also stop dealing with them.

But I wasn't too upset with X2 so X3 is the first big disappointment that I've had to deal with so I can wait and see before making a decision.
https://levifiction.wordpress.com/
Pixel_Pusher
Posts: 42
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:33 pm
operating_system: Windows 10
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
processor: Intel Core i7-7820HQ CPU 2.90GHz 2.90GHz
ram: 32GB
Video Card: NVIDIA Quadro 3000M

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by Pixel_Pusher »

I use PSP since version 7 and I see the version X3 as the biggest desaster Corel ever delivered. They did not solve several problem within half a year. What a shame.
I first did not want to buy the X3 because I could not see any advancement for me but then I had to buy it because of grafical problems in Windows 7. The result is that I do not have this problem anymore but I have a lot of other problems caused by PSP X3.
I hope to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
-DJ-
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:15 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
processor: Q6600
ram: 4GB
Video Card: nVidia GTX 570
sound_card: XiFi Fatal1ty
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 750GB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by -DJ- »

I agree X3 is a real mixed bag for many of us at the moment - new features sure, but several issues, some of which have been show stoppers. :(

I'd stopped using it for months, and had bought Pixelmator on the Mac instead (which has fantastic real-time GPU powered effects and filters etc)....but since the selection bug workaround was discovered a couple of weeks back I have been using X3 again more and more.

Familiarity with a program is a big draw - I just get stuff done quicker with PSP. That and the 30" monitor on the windows box is just so much nicer to use for image editing than the cheap rubbish I bought for the Mac :mrgreen:
cactushead
Posts: 2
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:41 am
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
ram: 8GB
Video Card: HD5850

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by cactushead »

I contacted Corel about this issue over seven months ago and after several emails, including a screen cast of the problem, I got a final reply:
We have been able to reproduce the issue and it has been reported. There may be an update to fix the issue and we will let you know you it becomes available.
Well, it has been silent since then and I have consequently hardly used X3 since - a complete waste of a so called "upgrade" from X2.

I am longing for the days of Jasc as I have used PSP since the first version and this is the only one which I've had any real problem with. And with such a fundamental problem like this I would have expected it to have been priority one for Corel to fix and update ASAP.

I will NOT upgrade until I have confirmation that this basic flaw is corrected, and to be honest I believe that all of us should receive a free version for the absolute disaster that X3 has been.
mrshift
Posts: 8
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:47 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: Gigabyte EP43T-USB3
processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q8300 4x 2.9 gHz
ram: 4 GB
Video Card: Nvidia GTX 470
sound_card: integrated Realtek HD Audio
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 500 GB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by mrshift »

Sadly, the patch ver. 3 for PSP X3 doesn't fixed this ugly pixel bug. Waiting for patch ver.4, meanwhile I'm using this small script trick to avoid destroying my pixel-based web layouts.
This is really annoying bug, I'm working on PSP since ver. 7 from Jasc, and this never happened before.

About this script trick:
- is there any chance to tweak this method from DJ, to not to promote selection to a new layer after pressing CTRL+D?, then will have for example
two key bindings - one DJ's, and another one - that is not promoting selection to a new layer.


Waiting for any news. This bug is horrible...
Fuzzyman
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:04 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by Fuzzyman »

I hope they come up with a fix for this bug soon. Working around it is a major drain on my time. Is there *any* news? It's almost unusable.
-DJ-
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:15 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
processor: Q6600
ram: 4GB
Video Card: nVidia GTX 570
sound_card: XiFi Fatal1ty
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 750GB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by -DJ- »

AFAIK Corel was made aware of the issue back in April, certainly when I had another go at support in Sep/Oct I was told it was a known issue and politely told to drop it.

In my opinion, they can't fix it so don't expect a resolution for this, and if it were somehow to come it would be as a result of a partial re-write and packaged as X4. Upgrade fee, please.

I'm a developer myself and have previous experience of trying to cajole an ancient (1996) third party component whose developer had long been lost through multiple acquisitions - sound familiar anyone? - into working with modern hardware and operating systems. It was horrendous, and even crazy things like what printer driver the customers used would affect whether this wretched spreadsheet component generated memory leaks or not...

Anyway, it would not surprise me if the Corel coders are finding themselves in a similar situation, where an old underlying code base is throwing up strange compatibility issues with modern hardware and operating systems.

It's not clear how many people it affects - certainly there are a whole bunch of us here that have been hit by it, but there could be many thousands out there that don't experience it, or indeed don't edit images the same way and have therefore not noticed it.

From a commercial stand point the cost/benefit of resolving this by clean-sheeting great chunks of code for a probable minority of users who have reported this is not in our favour...

So, I wouldn't recommend waiting for a resolution - learn to live with it, or migrate to a different solution :cry:
wick
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:08 am
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
processor: Intel i5 M460
ram: 8GB
Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 500 GB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by wick »

No April Fools joke ... Got word today that Corel fixed this bug with a patch applied over Service Pack 4. See PSP X3 KB article 000005465 - In some cases, pixels along the bottom edge of a selection are dropped. Thanks to Corel for fixing this!!
jojomart
Posts: 51
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:09 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: FOXCONN ALOE 1.01
processor: 2.60 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X4 910
ram: 8GB
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4350
sound_card: Realtek High Definition Audio
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1TB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by jojomart »

Yep they did, and it works too :D

I had a pm from a Corel employee a couple of days ago and she sent me that partial patch, and it works, so now I won't have any more trouble with my X3 scripts - I'm one happy camper :D

Hugs,
Joanne
-DJ-
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:15 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
processor: Q6600
ram: 4GB
Video Card: nVidia GTX 570
sound_card: XiFi Fatal1ty
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 750GB

Re: Multiple Issues- slow startup, cut/paste quirks, and mor

Post by -DJ- »

wick wrote:No April Fools joke ... Got word today that Corel fixed this bug with a patch applied over Service Pack 4. See PSP X3 KB article 000005465 - In some cases, pixels along the bottom edge of a selection are dropped. Thanks to Corel for fixing this!!
Wick, thank you for the link, that has fixed X3 for me too - wonderful!

From my perspective this was the biggest issue and it is fabulous to have it finally resolved. 8)
Post Reply