Movie effect I just can't do

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Movie effect I just can't do

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Hi. First of all let me say that I have already tried the search, but have failed to find the solution.

What I intend to do is: Have a conversation with my self.

Explaining... I wanna shoot a video where I am having a conversation with myself. Of course, I understand I must shoot 2 videos with the camera still on a tripod. One of me will be on one chair, and the other me will be on another chair. So, the space betwen us is comon. I can not use the transparency, or the background of one image will show on the other image. I have made something using the crop tool, and showing only the part of the video that I want. The problem is that I end up with the bottom overlay track in top of the other, showing only the part of the video that I want, but, plus a black bar on the other side, where I wanted the other video showed up...

If you did understand me, can you please show me some light??

Thanks

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HI,

I have just doen something similar with me playing guitar with myself: http://www.vimeo.com/10320472 (or YouTube, just search for "Roberto Colombo" and "Swingy Boogie").
I tried both the Crop and the Chroma (in this case, you should pre-render teh left or right half one video, covering the part you do not want to show with a solid color, and then "removing it with Chroma effect).
In both the case the result was unsatisfactory.
What I used in the video in th elink above is NewBlueFx Video Essentials III.
There is one effect that does exactly what you are looking for.
Note: in my video there is some tonality color change between the two halves, because playing the guitar parts without mistakes and exactly in Sync was a fight against the sunset :-))
Also, I had to move away the camera from the tripod to download the 1st half, so the two parts actually are slightly not 100% matching in space.Nevertheless, if you just want to speak, this can be probably done in a shorter time then what it took to me to record the two parts (I am a bad guitar player and it takes time to me to record a almost flawless take...), so, you will probably get a perfect back-light match.
NewBlueFx applied a discount for VS X3 new users, so, maybe you can get this plug-in for a reasonable price.

Obviously, if you find another way, without the need to buy this plug-in, just let us know :-)
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Maybe a split screen effect is what you are after?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l00H_b5QFeg
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Accolades, this way, if the 2 video halves represents are just the left and right side of the same background, it appears a vertical lines between the 2 halves,
I just used NewBlueFx Video Essential II, which works pretty fine and has not this problem (except for the back lights...): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRwsATajS7c
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Roberto wrote:Accolades, this way, if the 2 video halves represents are just the left and right side of the same background, it appears a vertical lines between the 2 halves,
I just used NewBlueFx Video Essential II, which works pretty fine and has not this problem (except for the back lights...): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRwsATajS7c
I think this is one of the very best examples of this technique I have seen - congrats. Even the very slight background difference could be edited with just a very slight tweak with the brightness filter, but few would notice the difference if you hadn't pointed it out. :wink:
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Hi,

Looks good to me...

You probably notice more on VideoStudio wher the crop/join has taken place but after uploading/converting for you tube tis hardly noticable.

Unless of course you point it out.
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Seemed perfect to me, I only noticed when I viewed it for the second time that there is a brilliant stereo effect also, with the left guitar coming out the left speaker and the right guitar on the right. Even more impressed than the first time I viewed it.
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Thanks to everybody for the nice words!!! :-))
Few days after I put the video on YT, I experimented other techniques to reduce the L-R color difference, which, as I explained, it is due to the fact that I was not able to take the right-side recording before the sun started to reduce its sunshine... tough job to play in sync and without too many mistakes :-( ...otherwise the color would have been perfectly matched.
One way is to take a snapshot of any part of the video, create a short video from the snapshot, adding as an overlay, and cropping it to the central part only.
Then, I can apply some average/blur effect to this cropped parts in order to smooth the wall color difference and then setting a medium transparency to this new overlay.
Other experiments gave good results as well but... c'mon... I have already some beautiful comment on my YT channel and I did not want to loose them by replacing the video ;-)
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Roberto, that is an outstanding video, using a split-screen!! :) I've also noticed where you claim you don't play guitar very well. Sorry to tell you this, but just like Lays potato chips, I couldn't watch just one. I viewed about all that you have up there. I've played guitar in the past, and boy do I wish I could have mastered it as well as you. Some of the cover-tunes you play by Bon Jovi, are some of my favorites by them, and you do them no harm.

Well I'm going to stop bragging about you, as I don't want your head to get too large, and can't get through the door..:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thanks Ron! :-)
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Ron P. wrote:Some of the cover-tunes you play by Bon Jovi, are some of my favorites by them...
Ron, here is a new one, just churned out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krd9oVnw4HY
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Thanks Roberto, Wanted Dead or Alive, just love that tune!!
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Here is what I did. I've added some lighting in the editing to overcome few shadows I can not avoid while shooting, but I just used a very simple trick. The procedure is
1.drag the first video to time line and second clip to the overlay
2.open paint ( or gimpshop, any image creator will do) and draw a rectangular box ( which should be half the size of the page) and fill it with black color. Save it with .png extension (jpg also works but png is a good option).
3.In VSX3 click on the overlay clip . Now in the preview window right click + select fit to screen.
4.click on the overlay clip again and click options in effects panel. now select the attributes tab + Mask and Chroma Key > select Apply Overlay Options
5. You will see image files to apply masks, now click on "+" and locate the png file you created and see the majic :)

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Nice to see you found a way to do this without having to go out and buy a plug in that costs about as much as VSX3, in the first place. Good job.
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@darryl
If one can deal with those fine details ( for ex: the line shadow on the microphone in the video) this trick really saves money.
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