Smart package VS X3 not opening on VS X2

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:55 am

I have two computers one running VS ProX2 and the other running Pro X3.

I though I would test if I smart packaged a .VSP project on Pro X3 I could take it across to Pro X2.

It would appear that Corel also refers to Pro X2 as Verison 12 and Pro X3 as Version 13.

I noticed this in the smart package window - at the bottom - Project file version. Pro X3 is 13 and Pro X2 is 12.

Th test showed that Version 13 is not compatiable with Ver 12 when you attempt to transfer a smart package and open the same project going from Ver 13 to Ver 12.

Is Corel aware of this and what fix is in the pipeline?

Thanks

Paul

Post by **Ron P.** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:44 am

Nothing really wrong..

You need to first save the project as VS12, which is done clicking on the drop-down menu for Save as type in the Save as dialog. Then do your Smart Package, and it should open in VS 12.

With project files (VSP), you can open older versions in the newer version, however not the other way around. That's why there is the option to save your project as an older version.

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:30 am

thanks Ron. I see what you mean. Thanks

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:37 am

Hi Ron,

I found the drop down window under save as and clicked on V12.
(This project has only two clips and goes for 2mins 25 secs.)

Then I did a smart pckage and saved to a flash memory stick.

Then crossed over to my other computer (that is the oen with VS12) and loaded the file onto the hard drive.

Open VS 12 > open project > selected the file and still it did not open.

The smart pckage file I transferred had the two video clips and the usual video studio icon that opens the project.

When I compare a smart package file done on VS 12 and the one transferred from VS 13 (saved as a V12) the file type show them as both - Corel VideoStudio 12.0 document so one would assume that all is OK.

However, when I try and open the file I get a error window/message
15039:0:0 File Format Not Supported.

Can you advise me further.

Thanks
Paul

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:52 am

Smart Package
This will gather together all of the material you are using in your project - videos, audio files, photographs etc. It will save them in a new folder and will also create a VideoStudio Project file using the CURRENT VERSION.
Therefore if you are using
VideoStudio 11 it saves as a VS11 vsp file
VideoStudio 12 it saves as a VS12 vsp file
VideoStudio 13 it saves as a VSX3 vsp file

To convert a VSX3 to a VSX2 file
If your material is scattered about the computer (Videos, images, sound files etc.) then the simplest thing to do is
1. Smart Package the VSX3. - This places everything together in one place.
2. Close VideoStudio then open it - opening the newly created smart packaged vsp file.
3. Save As - now select VSX2 format.
4. Close VSX3 and open VSX2, open the new VSX2 vsp file.

Bear in mind that not everything is backwards compatible.
Normal software behaviour is that newer versions open older versions stuff.
Older versions cannot open newer versions stuff because they contain things that simply do not exist in the older versions software.

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:17 am

I will put this problem to Corel as I have tried all the suggetions given thus far and still cannot transfer a V13 smart package (saved as V12) from computer A to computer B (running V12).

I get the same error message.

Thanks for your help.

Paul

Post by **Ron P.** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:01 am

I just tried this, and found the same thing, that you get the file format mismatch error. I think what's happening is that the Smart Package saves it only in the current version. So even though you saved your VSP as a VS 12 project, when you used the Smart Package, it then overwrites the Version 12 file as a version 13.

I was not able to open it on my desktop with VS 12, however was able to with VS 13. However if I just use the Save as VS 12, then close VS 13, and open VS 12, I'm able to open the project in VS 12.

So you will need to have VS 12 on your first computer so you can open the project, then use the Smart Package in VS 12, or VS 13 on your second one.

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:08 am

Thanks for replying,

I have desktop (computer A) running only VS12

I have a laptop (computer B) running only VS13

Both computers have the OS Win 7

I have edited and saved a VSP project (lets call it Cv13) on computer B using VS13

Now I want to continue adding more clips and make changes to this same project (Cv13) but this time using VS12 on computer A.

To do this you are saying I need to convert project (Cv13) to appear like(Cv12) by saving it as a V12 file. Right?

Then do a Smart Package on computer B using the new Cv12 project file. This should result in having a VS12 smart package file ready to go across to conputer A.

I am unclear how this can be done so could you try and explain this process one more time using the above example.

In a nutshell if I was to send a VS13 smart package to someone who had only VS12 it would not work. Is that right?

I though Smart Package was a strong point in Corel's software design.

This is a "bug" and corel needs to put out some info out tot users on this problem.

I checked their knowledge base and this kind of error is not addressed.

I will wait to here back from Corel and let you know what they say.

Thanks

Paul

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:21 am

sjj1805 wrote:Smart Package
This will gather together all of the material you are using in your project - videos, audio files, photographs etc. It will save them in a new folder and will also create a VideoStudio Project file using the CURRENT VERSION.
Therefore if you are using
VideoStudio 11 it saves as a VS11 vsp file
VideoStudio 12 it saves as a VS12 vsp file
VideoStudio 13 it saves as a VSX3 vsp file

To convert a VSX3 to a VSX2 file
If your material is scattered about the computer (Videos, images, sound files etc.) then the simplest thing to do is
1. Smart Package the VSX3. - This places everything together in one place.
2. Close VideoStudio then open it - opening the newly created smart packaged vsp file.
3. Save As - now select VSX2 format.
4. Close VSX3 and open VSX2, open the new VSX2 vsp file.

Bear in mind that not everything is backwards compatible.
Normal software behaviour is that newer versions open older versions stuff.
Older versions cannot open newer versions stuff because they contain things that simply do not exist in the older versions software.

It is not a bug and I have already explained step by step how to do it.

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:21 am

Dear Steve,

I am feeling a little awkward.

You come across as though you understand what you mean but I am still trying to follow your instructions to transfer a VS13 smart package from one computer and to open it on a second computer running VS12

I do not have VS12 and VS13 on the same computer.

OK you say:

1. Smart Package the VSX3. - This places everything together in one place.

So I got all the clips I need for the project and SmartPackage it using VSX3.

2. Close VideoStudio then open it - opening the newly created smart packaged vsp file.

Yes then I close Video Studio VS13. (Why I need to do this is a little odd) Then I open the newly created smart package. I am still in VS13

3. Save As - now select VSX2 format.

Ok I have the new smart package opened and all is going well.
Then I save this project as a VSX2 format.
So at this point I have two projects on my laptop 1. is VS13 format and 2. is VS12 format.
So now I Smart Package the VS12 formatted project to take it across to my desktop running VS12.

4. Close VSX3 and open VSX2, open the new VSX2 vsp file.

So I open VS12 on the desktop and go to open the SmartPackage and I get the error.

I have so this test twice and still come up with a format error.

Sorry if there is a mixup guys but I think I am doing all the things you are asking me to do.

Lets us alll have a break from this and I will keep at it and get back to you once I hear what Corel has to say.

Regards
Paul

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:59 am

Paul A Hodge wrote:Dear Steve,

I am feeling a little awkward.

You come across as though you understand what you mean but I am still trying to follow your instructions to transfer a VS13 smart package from one computer and to open it on a second computer running VS12

I do not have VS12 and VS13 on the same computer.

OK you say:

1. Smart Package the VSX3. - This places everything together in one place. YES

So I got all the clips I need for the project and SmartPackage it using VSX3.

2. Close VideoStudio then open it - opening the newly created smart packaged vsp file.

Yes then I close Video Studio VS13. (Why I need to do this is a little odd) Then I open the newly created smart package. I am still in VS13
You do this to make sure you are now working with the smart packaged vsp file and not the one you had before you created the smart package.

3. Save As - now select VSX2 format.

Ok I have the new smart package opened and all is going well.
Then I save this project as a VSX2 format.
So at this point I have two projects on my laptop 1. is VS13 format and 2. is VS12 format.
Yes - you can now move the entire folder over to the other computer by whatever means you have available - local network, memory stick, DVD disc, email it if you want - but move or copy the folder to the other computer!

So now I Smart Package the VS12 formatted project to take it across to my desktop running VS12.
NO you have already smart packaged it to get everything in one place, you simply had to do "Save As" so that the vsp in that folder is in VSX2 format.

4. Close VSX3 and open VSX2, open the new VSX2 vsp file.
Kind of academic in your situation - you are using two computers!

So I open VS12 on the desktop and go to open the SmartPackage and I get the error. Not this time you won't!!!

........

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:48 am

Hi Steve,

I finally got this task completed. Many thanks.

However, I should add that I had to relink all the clips before they appeared in the video time line when I opened the V12 formatted project on my desktop computer.

That meant selecting all the video clips that were in the same folder. It looked as though they were somehow still linked to the VS13 format.

My words to Corel is that it would make a big improvement if you could simply save your project while in VS13 as a VS12 project, then smart package and then transfer it across to VS12 without this hassle.

Anyway I hope others out there are more the wiser.

Thanks for putting up with me.

Paul

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:28 am

Paul A Hodge wrote:Hi Steve,
I finally got this task completed. Many thanks.
However, I should add that I had to relink all the clips before they appeared in the video time line when I opened the V12 formatted project on my desktop computer.
......

Perhaps I should have explained further.
When you copy the folder to the other computer you have to maintain the same folder address.

If the folder on computer "A" is
C:\Documents and Settings\Stephen\My Documents\My Videos
Then you must have the folder on computer "B" at
C:\Documents and Settings\Stephen\My Documents\My Videos

If the folder on computer "A" is
C:\DVD\Ready
Then you must have the folder on computer "B" at
C:\DVD\Ready

and so on.

Paul A Hodge · Post by **Paul A Hodge** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:54 am

Thank you for the added info.

Paul