AVCHD jerky on timeline but ok viewed as a clip

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AVCHD jerky on timeline but ok viewed as a clip

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I am a newbie to the forum and am looking for some advice with a problem I am experiencing with VSPX3. I downloaded VSPX2 for 30 days and was able to create a simple but effective 20 minute project using AVCHD files from my Panasonic HDC-SD9 camcorder. I had difficulty burning the project as DVD Factory Pro seemed to have an issue but other than that I was impressed with the ease of use. I decided to purchase the upgrade VSPX3 as it was just released the other week. The problem I am having now is that the same AVCHD files from the same camera play as a clip no problem but as soon as I start playing them as a 'Project' from the timeline it is 'jerky'. The programme then crashes and says that my graphics card has stopped and has re-started.
I have just spent a large amount of money on a i7 Quad PC with ATI Radeon 5850 graphics and 8Gb RAM so I can edit the vast amount of video I have of the family. Any help or suggestions to resolve this issue would be appreciated.
(Apologies for the long message) :?
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Post by Ken Berry »

Welcome to the forums -- and no need to apologise. In fact, if you take a look at other threads, your query is quite short! :lol: :wink:

Your problem does, however, sound a little strange. The SD9 camcorder uses a codec which was developed by Panasonic and which somehow or other varies slightly from the codec used by VS X2 and VS11.5+/11+. (Part of the difficulty is that the AVCHD camcorder manufacturers each seems to use their own proprietary AVCHD codec which varies slightly from the international AVCHD standard.) A lot of users with SD9 cameras had great difficulty getting their video to play back at all, let alone smoothly, in X2/11.5+, whether in Clip or Project mode. I personally could play it back smoothly in Clip mode but almost not at all in Project mode -- you can see my system specs under my Sytem button below, but essentially I have a Quad 6600.

But you say you could play your SD9 video back smoothly in Project mode in X2, but not in X3. That too is curious since others (including myself) have found the opposite i.e. the X3 seems to have corrected the X2 'bug'. And coincidentally, just yesterday, I spent several hours on projects using SD9 video.

X3 also seems to have correct another bug associated with AVCHD more generally and there is a sticky thread up towards the top of this forum on that relating to a transition blip. A fix for those continuing to have problems with that bug has been found by one of our users, which others have used quite successfully. And I am wondering if it might also work for your own problem, given that you previously had the trial version of the now old VS X2 before you installed X3.

NOTE: if you try this, make sure you keep back-up copies of the files in question so that you can restore them if the overall procedure does not work.
1) In Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\MPEG took a copy of H264VDec.dll as a backup, this is the older version of the library (version 2.0.1.4)

2) Take a copy of the newer file from Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\Filters\H264VDec.dll (this is version 2.0.1.7) and copy it into the folder in 1) replacing the older version there.
I might just add here that in my own case, X3 was installed on a 'virgin' computer I had just totally reformatted from the ground up with Windows 7, so it was not 'tainted' by the older installation of X2. That is perhaps why I have not had any problems with AVCHD either generally, or from the SD9 in particular when using X3.
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Post by Delminios »

Thanks for the response Ken.

I found the H264VDec.dll file in the place you said and saved a copy but there was no file of the same name located in the /filters folder so couldn't carry out this task. However, your comment re loading onto a virgin machine took me down a different path.

I downloaded CDS 2010 CleanUp Ver 1.8 a couple of days ago to remove X2 before I installed X3. I thought that might be better than just uninstalling the programme in Windows. I've just ran CDS CleanUp again and removed X3 and did a search on 'COREL' and found loads of folders and files on my system. I have just manually deleted them. Confident that all COREL files have been removed off my system I have just installed X3 again.

I put a AVCHD file from my SD9 onto the time line and once again the clip is fine but the Project is jerky and ultimately stops and starts the graphics card. For information prior to getting your response I downloaded the most up-to-date driver for my card and installed it

Next time I logged in the automatic patch update was offered and I installed. Again, to no effect.

I have just searched again for the H264VDec.dll file in the place you said and it was there but again not in the /filters folder.

I have found the same .dll file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Corel but it is the same size and date and assume it is the same version. Not sure of the significance of this file being in two different locations??

Is there a way of telling what version it is?

After this I am 'stumped' again. :(
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Post by Ken Berry »

Sorry. As I said, I was just passing on the suggestion of someone else which I had not tested since I don't have the problem.

I have just looked on my own computer, and I don't even have a Program Files\Ulead Systems folder there.

I found the file in Program Files\Corel\Corel Video Studio X3. If you right click on the file, and select Properties in My Computer/File Explorer, then in the window that comes up, you will find the file version number under the Details tab. Mine was version 4.2.07 and it is 902 kb. I also found it in Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\MPEG (which I suspect is the right folder). And it was an identical file -- version 4.2.0.7 902 kb. Why it is in a Ulead folder and not Corel, I don't know. But there was also another version of the same file in Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\Filters. That was an older version: 4.0.0.3 888kb.

I'm sorry I can't offer more than this or why the differences. Hopefully someone else either associated with that original suggestion or sharing a similar problem to yours will come along. :oops: In the meantime, all I can suggest you copy the latest version you can find and insert it in the place of any older versions you can find elsewhere, if there are any. (Again, take care to make back-ups of everything first.)
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Post by Delminios »

Thankyou for your help Ken. As you say hopefully someone out there will have the answer.

Otherwise, I'll have to try a different camera or a different editing suite.

Thanks once again.
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