VSX3 Capture One frame from next scene

janjatul · Post by **janjatul** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:51 pm

I have captured from my Panasonic DV cam using DV (to avis) and split scenes.

The problem is that the last frame of all scenes is the first frame of the next scene.
Is it my fault or is it an issue with VSX3?

I have never seen this before using previous versions of VS using the same cam and capturing in the same way.

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:51 pm

May be the way it was captured using split scenes. You can just chop off the one frame you don't want, bit of extra work, but does the job.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:01 pm

Hi

How did you notice this?

Does the extra frame show as a 'blip' when you play the project?

janjatul · Post by **janjatul** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:47 pm

If clips are moved or the start of "clip 2" has been cut the end of "clip 1" will contain one frame which should have been the first frame of "clip 2". This odd frame will be noticeable as a blip.
As I usually cut both ends of my clips this is no big problem. I have just noticed that this behavior has appeared with X3.

extremekicks · Post by **extremekicks** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:02 pm

I'm lost....so why didnt you start the cam give it a minute then get yur footage?

Take all the footage and cut it to where you want it I guess.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:44 am

Hi janjatul

I have captured to split by scene and indeed I do get the extra frame.
It¡¦s the first frame from the second scene that is tagged on to the last frame of the first, if that makes sense.

I have also tried performing Split by Scene after capture with the same results.

This problem makes using X3 Split by Scene useless, yes you can clean it up by removing every last frame, I wouldn¡¦t class that as a practical option.

I think Corel should be informed of this major problem.

In the meantime you could use Win DV to capture your footage.
Unfortunately its all to often that third party programs are used for processes that VS should be able to do.

janjatul · Post by **janjatul** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:35 am

Thanks Trevor,
I have informed Corel.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:58 am

If what you are looking at is what I think you are looking it then you are not looking at what you think you are looking at

Most Video Editors that I have used will display the first frame of the next scene so that you know which clip follows which - useful if you cut things up and then want to stitch them back together again with a transition to replace that "straight cut."

You need to look at the actual time line zoomed right into frame by frame to examine it properly.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:27 am

Hi
I am looking at X3 showing this extra frame.

When I use earlier versions X2 to VS7 I do not see this extra frame.
only the true frames associated with each split by scene are displayed.
which as far as i am concerned correct.

janjatul · Post by **janjatul** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:26 pm

I have done as sjj1805 suggests, drawn a clip on to the timeline and the last frame shown does not belong to that clip.

Informing Corel was interesting!

I described the problem and gave a link to this thread.

The first reply said "uninstall other capturing utility or software installed on your computer other than this software; uninstall them temporarily and then test the capture feature in this software" and suggested other similar actions.

I informed Corel again with the same link also mentioning that Trevor Andrew had replicated this problem.

Now I receive "Unfortunately, we are unable to duplicate your issue. If you are reporting a bug, please send us the steps on how to reproduce this issue and some of your screen shots that have issues."

I get the impressing that they are stalling and that but assigning work to me they will get me to back off.

I thought I was doing a favor to Corel by reporting this.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:01 pm

Hi Jan

They don¡¦t give you much confidence do they!

Interestingly I use a Panasonic GS 400.
I know my old Canon reacted a little differently to capture DV-Avi.
At least it stopped running immediately the capture was stopped, whereas the Panasonic waits for the clips to be loaded to the timeline, a little annoying¡K¡K¡K

So it may be camera type related, I¡¦ll dig out the old canon and give it a go.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:04 pm

Hi Jan

Ok I have run a few tests, the problem does not seem to be camera related, I am getting the same results using different cameras.

It seems to be related to X2 and X3 both versions create the same problem when capturing to DV ¡V Avi. I am using the trial version of X3, I don¡¦t think I will be buying the full version, and as it stands today cannot recommend this product.

I ran similar tests using VS 10 and all was ok. By that I mean there were no extra frames added to the adjacent captured Avi.

I am only glad that I captured my last holiday video using VS 10.

I may have a go and report it to Corel, but feel I am wasting my time¡K¡K¡K¡K..shame
I think they know but are turning a blind eye¡K¡K¡K.

I can only recommend that you use Win DV to capture your video.
Win DV is free, Corel cannot perform as well as a free product???????

Unfortunately everyone will end up using third party products to overcome Video Studios downfalls.

Sorry this doesn¡¦t get you sorted.

For X3 Capture with Win DV¡XEdit with Video Studio to create a video file¡XAuthor/burn the dvd using another program, Although what¡¦s provided may be suitable.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:31 am

sjj1805 wrote:If what you are looking at is what I think you are looking it then you are not looking at what you think you are looking at

Most Video Editors that I have used will display the first frame of the next scene so that you know which clip follows which - useful if you cut things up and then want to stitch them back together again with a transition to replace that "straight cut."

You need to look at the actual time line zoomed right into frame by frame to examine it properly.

OK here is an explanation of the above in more detail. It is easier for me to demonstrate this with MediaStudio Pro.
Here is a screen shot of a DV video captured from my Digital 8 Camcorder, placed into MediaStudio and then "Split by Scene". You will note three areas that I have marked.
A = Preview Window showing the first frame of Scene "2"
B = Scene 1
C = Scene 2

Now compare this to the same timeline after zooming into single frame view.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:32 pm

Hi

Steve you don¡¦t need to zoom in to view the last frames, simply navigate to the last frame, then using the digital clock nudge the frames backwards one by one.
You will clearly see the change in frame content between the last and the one before.

This extra frame only exists when using X2 and X3 Split by Scene, it does not exist when using VS 10.
Win DV captures the same as VS10.
I believe this to be correct and X2 /X3 have the problem.

I realise that you don¡¦t think this is a problem, so I think we will have to agree to disagree.

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