HDMV file with 3D transitions, batch convert VSP

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Video Studio HDMV file blips with 3D transitions.

Video Properties:-
MPEG files
24 bits, 1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(HDMV-NTSC), 16:9
H.264 Video
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 16000 kbps)
Audio data rate: 256 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio, 48 KHz, 2/0(L,R)

First I am not sure if I have this correct as I don¡¦t use HD, I only have a few samples.

Clips inserted to timeline with 3D type transitions.
Rendered the project Same as First Clip.
This produced a Mpeg of a similar size and properties except for the Mpeg extension.

Yep it has the blips, first time I have seen them, very annoying.

I saved the project to a VSP.
Started a New Project Tools- Batch Convert the VSP to:-

MPEG files
24 bits, 1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(HDDVD-NTSC), 16:9
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 16000 kbps)
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo

To my surprise the blips did not show.
As I say I don¡¦t know if this is the type of files you are converting to HDDVD,

Now it needs more tests to check this out and thats where you come in.

[Ken Berry]

Thanks Trevor -- that sounds as though it could be a positive development. But are you talking about X3 or X2? As I have said elsewhere, I have had no blip problem with transitions, 3D or otherwise, and with whatever kind of AVCHD, with the Beta 2 version of X3... But I acknowledge that at least one or two users of the trial version (or maybe even the full version) of X3 say that a modified version of the problem may still be there...

By the way, I know you are just dipping your toes in the high definition water, but as a point of clarification, 'HDMV' is just a generic term for any high def video (*H*igh *D*efinition *M*o*V*ie). Video Studio uses it in the header of its properties, regardless of whether it is AVCHD or HDV... And yours, of course, is AVCHD (H.264)...

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Ken

I am using X2 for these tests, with Ntsc video.

There are so many video formats out there, it does get confusing.

I take a MTS file use Share Create Video File - Same as First Clip and it ends up with the same properties but an Mpeg extension?

and all the blips,

If i were to share Create Disc-Blueray or Avchd, the resultant files are M2TS do they show the blips???

Basically Blueray and Avchd confuses me?

[Ken Berry]

Yes, it is all a bit confusing, and I can't say that after all this time playing with both formats that I am all that much wiser. Suffice it to say that the .mts extension is the transport stream extension of AVCHD mpeg-4 as actually natively filmed in the camera. When transferred to VS and "parsed" it takes on normally the .m2ts extension (compared to HDV's program stream .m2t). Output of AVCHD can be either .mpg (but still high def) or .m2ts -- the latter in either an AVCHD hybrid disc or Blu-Ray disc.

A Blu-Ray disc can accept either HDV or AVCHD and reproduce them as the same. But I have noted, much to my continuing puzzlement, that somehow or other, with Blu-Ray of either persuasion, the end file has Lower Field First, whereas the original HDV or AVCHD is always Upper Field First. Yet there is no effect on quality as far as I can see. (And AVCHD 'hybrid disc' has a BDMV structure similar to, but not quite the same as, a Blu-Ray disc, but burnt to a standard DVD. It can only be, as its name implies, in AVCHD format, and remains Upper Field First!!)

I suspect that some of your problem may come from using what seems to be "raw" AVCHD .mts without it having been "parsed" into .m2ts... Am I right in assuming (since you have NTSC video in a PAL country) someone sent you this video to test as opposed to your 'capturing' it yourself? I think the original .mts is transport stream whereas the .m2ts is program stream despite the 'ts' in the extension. And VS seems to have difficulty dealing with raw transport stream... (With HDV, for instance, it is also captured in program stream, but to export it back to the camcorder, it has to be reconverted back to transport stream; otherwise the camcorder cannot "see" it...)

But I would be extremely happy to be corrected!! Embarassed Laughing

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Ken

Thanks for the info and clarification regarding these file types.
You are of course correct in the source of the Mts files, originally Canada.

I have a friend on the internet that I talk to most days, he was sent the files from his family,
Having VS 9 didn¡¦t seem to work for him, he shouted help, Then I had to learn about HD
Now he uses X2.

Field Order
I think the interlacing is different for HD, using 50 fps as apposed to progressive at 25
My thoughts being that interlacing uses full frames.
I need to study further on that subject¡K¡K¡K

Thanks

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

There was a post from Philip_I here:-
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?t=36884

He seemed to have cured some blip problems by replacing the H264VDec.dll with another version.

I have just tried and indeed it does seem to remove the blips around the transitions, in the same way that Batch Convert does.
Maybe batch convert uses the H264VDec.dll from a different source as the timeline render.

Anyhow I have just tried re-placing this file and it does improve things¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K
I returned to the original and there were the blips¡K¡K¡K.

The details to change these files are as follows¡K¡K..

1) In Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\MPEG took a copy of H264VDec.dll as a backup, this is the older version of the library (version 2.0.1.4)

2) Take a copy of the newer file from Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\Filters\H264VDec.dll (this is version 2.0.1.7) and copy it into the folder in 1) replacing the older version there.


As you know I am using sample Hd files and new to the process, so can you have a go to confirm.