VideoStudio Pro x3

[alpine]

Please, please, please - you are all preaching to the choir! Corel doesn't frequent this forum. You need to express your concerns and displeasure with customer or technical support. If enough people tell them they are not upgrading then maybe Corel will do something about it.

So you are saying that this forum, hosted on forum.corel.com is never looked at by Corel staff. And that the moderators, apart from getting a freebie copy of the software have no contact with Corel. What a totally useless outfit.
As has been pointed out above, their customer support is non existent.

[Ken Berry]

Yes, you can output either a Blu-Ray or AVCHD folder to hard disk without burning an actual disc. That allows you to use third party software to actually burn a disc if you want something better than the DVD Factory 2010 now supplied with X3; or else you can stream the folder to your HDTV (e.g. either by networking or via a USB external disk or stick drive); or of course just watch it on your computer...

[Xyzzy2]

[quote="Ken Berry"]Yes, you can output either a Blu-Ray or AVCHD [/
quote]

Fine. How. To. Output. ISO. (for DVD or Blue-Ray)

[Ken Berry]

Alpine -- it is not just Corel, but its predecessors in ownership of the software (InterVideo and Ulead) that have acted like this. It was indeed one of the main reasons that this forum exists with volunteers like us trying to help out.

Of course, we Administrators occasionally have to approach Corel, and sometimes -- and it usually surprises us! -- we might even get a response. But more often than not, we don't -- even when it is a fairly simple request for Corel to upgrade the forum software (which is VERY out of date) or for some server space for people to be able to load photos into the forum...

Personally, I gave up trying to get help from Ulead Support, as it was then, some 7 or 8 years ago when I first started video editing with VS7. Lack of response was what led me to this forum in the first place, and here I have stayed trying to contribute what I can to help solve user problems...

And it is not a case of Corel employees never visiting the forum... Very occasionally they do, and most especially (perhaps not surprisingly) the sticky thread we established for people to say what they would wish for by way of updates or in the next version of the program.

But otherwise, I -- and I believe my colleagues in the Moderator panel -- could only agree with you that it is a very strange way of running a business which relies so heavily on user satisfaction!

[Ken Berry]

Xyzzy: There are some answers to your question on page 4 of this thread. As I said there about Blu-Ray or AVCHD folders:

In my own experiments with this AVCHD Folder option, I used AVCHD video from a Panasonic SD 9 video camera.

It was a bit of a struggle though, first with the length of time it takes for DVD Factory 2010 to open and process each keystroke. Then, though you are aiming to produce an AVCHD folder, you first have to set the output option to Blu-Ray disc. But then you have to go into that almost hidden settings button on the side and change the output format to AVCHD, at which time the Folders box becomes active and allows you to choose it.

I might also note that it took ages to render. An 11 minute project took 54 minutes to process, but the end result was excellent. So that is indeed another plus for X3...

It seems, though, that this option may not be available in the trial version of X3 (though as I also said on that page, it would be remarkably stupid on Corel's part if they did not allow would-be purchasers to try out such an increasingly popular option...)

[Xyzzy2]

There are some answers to your question on page 4 of this thread.

Thanks. I hope I'll find the same for DVD somewhere...

[Ken Berry]

Look down towards the bottom of that page and another user set out a step by step workflow relating to DVDs which could be adapted for standard definition video...

[RickMen]

Ken,

I might also note that it took ages to render. An 11 minute project took 54 minutes to process, but the end result was excellent. So that is indeed another plus for X3...

Are you suggesting that with the new burning module (DVD Fatory 2010) that there is a trade off ie longer burning times + fewer option settings BUT better quality (when compared to the burning module in V2)?

[Ken Berry]

No I am not suggesting that at all. Personally, I never had any significant problems with the burning module in X2, and particularly (comparing oranges with oranges) with producing an AVCHD hybrid disc. Burning times were about the same in X2 as they are in X3, and the results were also classed (by me at least) as excellent in terms of quality.

DVD Factory does, however, have the advantage of being able to produce an AVCHD folder, which X2 could not do, as well as Blu-Ray folders.

But overall, to me DVD Factory 2010 IMHO is a step or two backwards. It is slow to start up, and then each keystroke -- on my Quad 6600 -- takes ages for a reaction to occur. This is particularly so moving from page to page. As you will have seen either yourself or from others' complaints here, it is also more limited in some of its options e.g. the ability to produce a disc *without* a menu has disappeared (or at least is so deeply buried that no one yet has found the control).

So while the end result in terms of video quality is equal between X2 and X3 in the formats available in X3, it is more limited and far less user friendly than X2's burning module... Just my own personal opinion, of course...

[sjj1805]

Please I can't find the operating instructions of VSX3?

Stelios

There are some videos available prepared by Corel.
www.vimeo.com/8982456

[Black Lab]

What is the use of sending any complaints to Corel They dont care as long as they get your money. And they wont be getting any money off me for X3. I sent several complaints about problems with VS11 and the response I got was basically we dont answer questions after installation you haev to pay extra for that service.... NOT LIKELY
Another thing I cannot understand with Corel is that they release a trial version with faults or limitations (X2 chapter advance button missing Their answer use Ctrl N and in X3 there is NO ISO feature although Phil says there is) Would you buy a car if your test drive didnt allow you to start the engine.
The mind set of Corel is beyond me

Well what is the use complaining here?! At least if you complain to Corel something might get done. Complaing here will get you nothing.

[oz4me]

I am not complaining here Jeff. Just stating what appear to be facts to me. One interesting thing I have just found out In X2 ( and the same in 11 and 11.5) I have a weird situation where I cannot get into my jog bar when creating chapters. No amount of stuffing around has ever allowed me to be able to set my OWN chapter points. I put it down to soem weird conflict with my Gigabyte EP45-DS5 M/B Now the interesting thing that after installing the trial version of X3 even without registering it changes something in X2 which now allows me to manually set chapter points as would normally happen. So I must say one good thing about X3 it allows X2 to work as it should

[richmg821]

I can't critisize Corel; because they atleast give you a free trial, before you always buy. But, this the worst video program for me, they have
made so far. I'll stay with the X2. I didn't do too much, with the editing; I'm more interested in the top quality of the output medium. BR and ACVHD disc; which I don't use now; because good inkjet BR's can be bought at $3. What I don't like about X3 (bad luck 13?). I had no way to adjust burning speed. Data rate, was only adjustable to 16,000; is that fixed or variable? Think its the latter. I saw no improvemant in time, with my Quad cpu. 18 minutes, for a 2 minute clip? As another mentioned; what happened to the; "No menu option"? AVCHD clip, to AVCHD disk, skipped, sound dropped out. To disc, IMHO are not as simple as X2; or are there, as many options. Even if they removed the bugs; X3, hasn't any better features I can use, nor is it faster. I'm interested in quality; it's one thing, is to have pixeling, when you convert to smaller formats. But to have that, when you are just adding titiles, trimming videos; is unacceptable; at a higher or equal bitrate, for HD videos.
you are just only adding titles, and special effects.

[ghoofie]

Hi

I have VS10 VSx2 and VS X3 trial all installed. They install to separate folders so they do not interfere with each other and X2 and X3 are compatible with each others files.
I think I will stay with X2 because of X3s retrograde step of using WinDVD2010 to render and burn

While they install to separate folders that is a shed load of DLLs that are shared and these are updated to the versions used in X3. This hopefully should not cause any issues (they are designed to be shared but I don't trust Corel to have done any testing with the new libraries to older products) so if you find X2 behaving differently this is the likely reason.

Take a look at Program Files\Common Files\Ulead, you will find a lot of files with December timestamps after installing X3, these would have placed X2 versions.


Regards

Phl

I have a new problem while having VS 9 SE and VS X2 both installed. I was unable to burn any DVD's..both would edit just fine. When I went to burn, both programs said no DVD burner installed. When I removed VS 9 SE, then X2 found my DVD burners and burned with no problems.

[mitchell65]

e.g. the ability to produce a disc *without* a menu has disappeared (or at least is so deeply buried that no one yet has found the control).

I emailed Corel on this point and their reply is interesting
My Question: Can I turn off the menu option so that I go straight to Burn?
Corel's reply (Rec'd within 4 hours V.G.)
Thank you for contacting Corel Customer Support Services.
Your wanted feature is not possible in DVD Factory 2010. However, this is not a limitation in VideoStudio Pro X2, our video editing solution.
Conclusion: If you don't use Menus that often stick with X2!