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Yes, that's what has been stated several times already in this thread.
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Black Lab wrote:Yes, that's what has been stated several times already in this thread.
I thought I didn't understand something. I don't know what to say. That's just stupid. And another NLE has official support for my camcorder model :/
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Please I can't find the operating instructions of VSX3?

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I thought I didn't understand something. I don't know what to say. That's just stupid.
You are right. We expressed our dissatisfaction, to no avail.
Please I can't find the operating instructions of VSX3?

Well, the workings are not a whole lot different than previous versions.

Have you checked the Help file? In past versions the Help file was basically the same as what you would get with the printed manual
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Success with new video project using X3

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I'd like to report that I had great success doing a project with many 16:9 photos and AVCHD Lite video clips. It worked perfectly, no crashes, and plays beautifully with pretty high quality (res 1280x720) in our SONY 50" LCD.

I am also very pleased with new features: replacing a photo, Video Pan and Zoom, the Artistic filter, the quick projects that are built-in, the mood in music, it rendered fast, etc. Quite frankly, 59.99 was a bargain, as far as I am concerned. I was able to use mpeg files as templates to create new ones and not worry about the missing options.

FYI, I have a very fast system (I7 cpu) with 12 GB of memory and lots of hard-drive and doing video with this machine is a pleasure... Al
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It certainly does output to either ISO images in the case of standard definition and, pleasingly to either AVCHD folders (via the Blu-Ray settings) or to an actual Blu-Ray folder. In X2, only the Blu-Ray folder route was possible, but not an AVCHD one... You had to burn to a disc.

But this also highlights what I said earlier about hoping these features are fully explained in the Manual as access in the (to me, awful) DVD Factory 2010 burning module is no instinctive and many of the controls are hidden away over on the far right middle of screen, and then nested down somewhat in sub-menus...

In my own experiments with this AVCHD Folder option, I used AVCHD video from a Panasonic SD 9 video camera.

It was a bit of a struggle though, first with the length of time it takes for DVD Factory 2010 to open and process each keystroke. Then, though you are aiming to produce an AVCHD folder, you first have to set the output option to Blu-Ray disc. But then you have to go into that almost hidden settings button on the side and change the output format to AVCHD, at which time the Folders box becomes active and allows you to choose it.

I might also note that it took ages to render. An 11 minute project took 54 minutes to process, but the end result was excellent. So that is indeed another plus for X3...
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Ken, when you output to the AVCHD folder using DVD Factory, were you able to bypass the creation of a menu and produce a disc (well, folder disc actually) with no menu? I haven't found a way to bypass the menu the way X2 can, by un-checking the menu option in the X2 burn disc module.
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Sorry, I wasn't looking at that aspect of it as one of the things I liked about X2 was precisely its ability to create menus with AVCHD discs. So I would have been looking for the same feature in X3, not the reverse...
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Ken Berry wrote:It certainly does output to either ISO images in the case of standard definition and, pleasingly to either AVCHD folders (via the Blu-Ray settings) or to an actual Blu-Ray folder. In X2, only the Blu-Ray folder route was possible, but not an AVCHD one... You had to burn to a disc.

But this also highlights what I said earlier about hoping these features are fully explained in the Manual as access in the (to me, awful) DVD Factory 2010 burning module is no instinctive and many of the controls are hidden away over on the far right middle of screen, and then nested down somewhat in sub-menus...

In my own experiments with this AVCHD Folder option, I used AVCHD video from a Panasonic SD 9 video camera.

It was a bit of a struggle though, first with the length of time it takes for DVD Factory 2010 to open and process each keystroke. Then, though you are aiming to produce an AVCHD folder, you first have to set the output option to Blu-Ray disc. But then you have to go into that almost hidden settings button on the side and change the output format to AVCHD, at which time the Folders box becomes active and allows you to choose it.

I might also note that it took ages to render. An 11 minute project took 54 minutes to process, but the end result was excellent. So that is indeed another plus for X3...
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The Settings Menu in the middle on the right side which opens Sub_Menu's does not show any Blu-ray option.
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I don't yet have a full release copy of X3, only the Beta version still on this computer. But when I choose Share > Create disc, DVD Factory 2010 opens after a little wait. In the main screen ('Create Video Disc'), I have three boxes in the top left: Project Name, Select Disc and Project Format. (I am testing this again as I type...) And when I click on Select Disc, the drop-down (which is DVD by default) gives me the Blu-Ray option...

If you don't get that option, I can only imagine that you might need to re-install since I wouldn't have thought that the full version would be any different from the Beta in this respect...
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Ken Berry wrote:I don't yet have a full release copy of X3, only the Beta version still on this computer. But when I choose Share > Create disc, DVD Factory 2010 opens after a little wait. In the main screen ('Create Video Disc'), I have three boxes in the top left: Project Name, Select Disc and Project Format. (I am testing this again as I type...) And when I click on Select Disc, the drop-down (which is DVD by default) gives me the Blu-Ray option...

If you don't get that option, I can only imagine that you might need to re-install since I wouldn't have thought that the full version would be any different from the Beta in this respect...

The Select Disc is not a drop-down in the trial version, but fixed at DVD.
This could be a limitation in the trial version.
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Could be ... I just don't know. But it would be a serious mistake on Corel's part since so many people these are getting interested in AVCHD/Blu-Ray options... :roll:
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philip_l wrote:Hi
The transitions blips do indeed seem to be gone, as reported by one of the mods who was a beta tester. Yea!
My findings were the blips were still there coming out of a transition just hidden by the decoder better.

If you try a simple crossfade transition then smart render that out, then reimport that clip to the time line and then use the Create File and create a DVD output then watch that, how is the crossfade?

If you turn off the hardware decoder in VideoStudio (Settings - Preferences) under one of the tabs, then watch the smart rendered AVCHD file in VideoStudio full screen what do you see when it leaves the transition, I see a noticeable blip, like 2 or 3 frames have frozen.

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Phil, I hope I correctly understood the sequence of steps you suggested. The following steps are what what I did to try to follow your suggestion:

1. Un-checked "hardware decoder acceleration" in preferences.
2. Put 4 short AVCHD 1920/1080i clips (Sony) in the time line.
3. Inserted cross-fade transitions between the clips.
4. Used "Share/Create Video File/DVD/NTSC DVD 16:9" to create a DVD-compliant .mpg file. I also turned off Smart Render, although I don't think it would SmartRender anyway since it would be converting AVCHD to mpeg-2.
5. Inserted the file from step 4 into the time line of a new X3 project and did a "Share/Create Disc", which opened DVD Factory. Selected DVD-Video as the "Project Format" in DVD Factory's first screen.
6. Went to DVD Factory's second screen and check-marked the option in "Settings" on the right edge of the screen to have it create DVD folders on the hard drive, then clicked "Burn".
7. Used Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 Ultra to play the main VOB file that DVD Factory had just created in the DVD folders (in the Video_TS folder).

This video is of a baseball player running the bases so it would be fairly easy to spot any backward movement or freezing. When I played the VOB file at full speed in PowerDVD, I didn't see either problem.

I think you had mentioned playing the DVD file at full screen in X3. I don't know of a way to play a VOB file in VideoStudio, so I played the DVD-compliant .mpg file from step 4 in the X3 preview window at full screen, and advanced it frame-by-frame from just before the point that the cross-fade started until couple seconds past the end of the cross-fade. In each successive frame the base runner moved forward compared to the previous frame. I didn't see any backward movement or frame freezes.

There may be some difference in our PC configurations or in the video clips we are using that causes X3 to give us slightly different results.
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Post by boxy »

I just did a quickie 'looking around' in the trial version...

I don't see all of the newblue movie effects that are with X2. Also, I do not like the DVD Factory (or whatever it's called) for burning discs. Mind you I only did a quick scanning of it, but I did not see any way to make adjustments like I could with older versions of VS. If I'm overlooking something, I stand corrected. If not, this is a huge mistake on Corel's part.
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boxy wrote:I just did a quickie 'looking around' in the trial version...

I don't see all of the newblue movie effects that are with X2. Also, I do not like the DVD Factory (or whatever it's called) for burning discs. Mind you I only did a quick scanning of it, but I did not see any way to make adjustments like I could with older versions of VS. If I'm overlooking something, I stand corrected. If not, this is a huge mistake on Corel's part.
There are some adjustments available on the far right side of the 2nd screen in DVD Factory. If you look carefully you can see the word "Settings" written vertically along the right edge of the screen. Click on it and it opens a window where you can make some adjustments. However, there seem to be fewer adjustments available than in X2's burning module.
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