Vid Stdio 11+ on HP-Vista no longer dwnlds HDV frm CanonHV20

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:36 am

This is complicated.

I've read the other "No HDV" threads, but no joy.

Last year my HP Pavillion with Vista x32 and 3G RAM captured HDV from my Canon HV20, using Ulead VideoStudio 11+ over a 1394 cable.

Just now, I tried the same setup, but when I plug the 1394 connector into the front of the HP, the camera menu "Playback STD" automatcally greys out, and Ulead reads the device as "Canon DV" rather than "Canon H20" like it used to; and it will only capture at DV, not HDV. Yes, I'm sure the camera is set to "Playback STD HDV", and I've re-installed the Canon Computer software. I've also tried re-booting/re-powering the computer and camera in all configurations. No joy.

Here's the fun part. I thought it was a port problem, so I plugged the 1394 into the port on the back of the HP computer; same problem. When I unplug the 1394, the camera resets to "Playback STD HDV."

Fun part 2. I thought it was a cable problem, so I plugged it into the 1394 port of my home-built computer (XP-Pro), and the camera stays in HDV output mode! Unfortunately, my Blu-ray burner is only in my HP.

From the above, I think the HP-Vista is sending a signal to the H20 telling it that it is only a DV camera and not an HDV camera. But, it worked fine a year ago!

Anybody have any ideas?

TIA,

Bemused

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:33 am

Try going to Device Manager then expand the entry
IEEE1394 Bus Controllers. Right any entries you find and uninstall.
Reboot your computer and Windows should re-install the drivers.

Once completed, try your camcorder again.

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:44 am

Thanks sjj, but no joy.

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:35 pm

Bemused wrote:Fun part 2. I thought it was a cable problem, so I plugged it into the 1394 port of my home-built computer (XP-Pro), and the camera stays in HDV output mode! Unfortunately, my Blu-ray burner is only in my HP.

As a temporary workround, capture your video clips in the PC that works, copy the clips to a disc or memory stick and then copy them to your HP PC.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:15 pm

Or, does the Canon software capture? If so you can use that and save yourself the transfer from the other pc.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:16 pm

For my own HDV captures from my Canon HV20, I use a small freeware program called HDVSplit -- not because of any problems with capture using X2, but because -- as its name implies -- HDVSplit splits the captured video by scene during the capture process. And I personally prefer dealing with a lot of small, real clips rather than later splitting a big video into lots of 'virtual' clips... Just a personal preference, though...

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:34 am

Thanks all.
1. This weekend, I'll try capturing on computer that works, and transfer with DVD or stick (but 3 1-hr DV tapes to transfer!)
2. The Canon s/w does not capture.
3. I downloaded HDsplits, but it does not recognize the HV20; that's the source of my problem. This HP compter running Vista no longer recognizes my HV20 as a HD source.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:39 am

Have you thought about putting a new Firewire capture card into the HP? They are quite cheap these days and pretty easy to install if you don't mind going into a computer's innards!!

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:35 am

Thanks Ken. I'm thinking of jut getting a new video card with a HDMI input.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:30 am

That could be an interesting option -- though I have to admit I have no idea if VS can "see" a camera via the HDMI connection from the camcorder...

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:46 pm

Firewire capture card at Best Buy = $20. Think I'll try that first. I still can't help thinking that the problem stems from a Vista "update." I've got (2) XP-Pro Boxes, (1) Vista box, and (1) Vista laptop on the home network, and the Vista machines never "played well with others." My kids tell me Win 7 is more friendly, and maybe I'll upgrade the Vista machines. I keep hoping the promised Blu-ray stand-alone burners come out soon.

BTW, as a former lurker and new member, I'm quite impressed with the quantity and quality of your posts. Thanks from all of us

Bemused

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:18 pm

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:21 pm

Ken Berry wrote:

Come on Ken, don't be shy

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:35 pm

Bemused · Post by **Bemused** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:15 pm

Since my HV20 HDV ,Ulead 11+, Vista, Blu-ray disc recording setup worked a year ago, I checked what's changed since then. On the HP-Vista, Son #1 installed VLC Media Player, and Son #2 installed Windows Movie Maker. Default Programs shows that they are default for most video file extensions. I bet these programs only recognize DV (not HDV), and that's why my computer no longer sees the HV20 as an HDV device. I can only figure out how to change the default program for particular file extensions. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT VIDEO FILE EXTENSION THE HV20 OUPUTS? If I reset the default program for that file extension type to Ulead11+, maybe it will see the HV20 as an HDV device.

Any other ideas?

Tx,

Bemused