Dual-Output video

[Jerry Meloon]

I am new to the forum. Jerry Meloon (like "balloon" only with an "M"...and boy did I get kidded about that in school)! Sitting in DuBois, Pennsylvania, USA (and that one is pronounced "doo-BOYS" because of all the Pennsylvania Dutch influence in the region).

I'm strictly a hobby user who does entry-level work weekly producing DVDs of our local church services and producing video sequences for family and friends. My software is ULead VideoStudio 10-Plus. I'm running on a desktop with XP-Pro 64 and 4-gigs of RAM at the moment.

This past fall I upgraded my hardware with a new video card intending to use dual monitors in editing. There are 2 references in the printed owner's manual to setting preferences for this configuration, but both of them lead me up a blind path. Either the drop box alluded to isn't there or I am working in the wrong part of the program.

Since I've been told that there is no support for versions earlier than v.11 or the Corel upgrade I'm hoping that someone along the line here has experience with dual monitors and can add the critical puzzle piece that will get me going.

Thanks in advance for whatever help you can offer. I've got some other questions about program features that I feel ULead VideoStudio should be able to do but I haven't found out yet how to do them. (e.g. How do you make title backgrounds fade in an out like the text... or along with the text?)

Jerry Meloon
gems@pennswoods.net

[Ron P.]

Welcome to the forums Jerry,

First I'll point out that on web boards, forums, unless you really like getting a few hundred spam emails daily, it's not a good idea to post your email address. There's a space available for that in your Profile. Just click the Profile button located at the top of the web board to access it. While we're on the Profile subject, there's other important, helpful information that is used by other members, when troubleshooting problems. That is the System Information. Try to complete that, so when you post about problems, we can press the System button located at the bottom of all your posts, we get a look at your system specs. Also it keeps us from asking for it time and again..

Now the reason Corel doesn't print much about how to go about using the dual-monitor, is because it varies between PCs and especially video cards. I don't have a dual-monitor setup currently, but have in the past. If you could post some information about your specific video card, we should be able to research it, and come up with a solution..

When you have a problem specific to a program, like VS, please be sure to post in the appropriate forum. This increases the chances of being viewed by more members, and getting a faster response.

Oh.. and if you see another member's problem and know of a possible fix, or tips, don't hesitate to share it. Looking forward to your participation..

[skier-hughes]

I'm not sure what your problem actually is, as can't see it detailed in the question.
I use dual monitors.
YOu set them up from the graphics card properties (r/click the screen and choose properties)
You need to ensure you have the right drivers installed, latest up to date ones from the manufacturer, not from windows update.
Then set the monitoerrs to how you want them, dual screen, mirrored, one large horizontal, one large vertical etc.
VS does not support dual monitors, so you cannot seperate windows to put where you want, you can only extend it across two monitors in line with your option chosen previously.

[Jerry Meloon]

Thanks for the input. VS claims dual output operation at least twice in the manual. It is labelled "Preview Playback Options". The second screen can be either a TV monitor or a dual-head output. (I'm reading from pages 146 & 147.)

There is a second reference on page 76 in the EDIT section which tells how to get the preview window to appear full screen on a second screen. This is my goal! In the manual it is a TIP and refers to a monitor drop box which I cannot locate. If someone else has seen it, please tell me which window has this software doorway. I think if I can find that puzzle piece I'll be to follow the bread crumbs myself.

Again, Windows is recognizing dual monitor capability and it works correctly on other programs like Powerpoint. I've been told that dual monitor operation is a preference set up from within an individual program, not a global setting. But I'll GLADLY stand corrected on this.

[skier-hughes]

I'm not a big VS user I'm afraid, but this is different to what I was told from a member of the VS team that windows are undockable.
I'm out all day, but if you can send me a link to an online manual that I can read how it should be done I'll try to emulate it here.

Graham

[Jerry Meloon]

Thanks for the concerned help.

I am caught in a bind in 2 directions. #1... the VS computer is not able to go on line unless I physically bring it to a different location (like here at the school) where I also have broadband. So I live-and-die by the printed manual. I can, however, scan the pages with the references so you can see the whole thing.

Problem #2 is that for some reason this Corel Web Board is not accessible on my home computer which does go online. I try to get in and I get blank pages with "DONE" on the bottom. Could be that it is a slower connection or could be that the online machine is only armed with Windows98SE. So I receive email notice that someone like yourself has responded, but I can't actually look at the posts until I get to a school machine like this running Win2K using broadband. (Ever heard of that problem before?) And I can only do this every other day or so.

Jerry

[Black Lab]

I can (sort of) help with #1. Steve uploaded a copy of the X2 manual, but I didn't see anything pertaining to dual head devices. Maybe you (OP) can match up the chapter to where you saw it in the v10 manual.

http://www.humyo.com/F/6113409-195254821

[Jerry Meloon]

I've got the PDF file with the complete V10 manual right here, but now I suddenly realize that there's no quick way to attach it to this reply.

What's the procedure for uploading or attaching?

Jerry

[Black Lab]

You have to upload it to your own site, if you have one, or to a hosting site like ImageShack. You then link to it from here.

[Jerry Meloon]

Thanks, Jeff

I can get with the system once I know how to play the game.

I've posted the VideoStudio 10 Plus manual in PDF form at the following location for any of you who can "read between the lines" on my behalf.

Get it at: http://fbcdubois.no-ip.org/Jerry/

Take a look at pages 76 and the bottom of page 146 to the top of 147. It certainly seems to indicate the pressence of dual-screen capability... at least as far as preview screen exhibition goes. What am I missing here?

Jerry Meloon

[skier-hughes]

Page 76
Tip: You can preview the clip with applied video filter on VideoStudio¡¦s Preview
Window or an external device such as a TV monitor or DV camcorder.
Click , then click to open the Preview Playback Options dialog box where
you can choose the display medium.

This makes no mention of using two pc monitors, just that if you have a tv out signal from your graphics card you may be able to monitor the output on a tv. Or if you have your cam connected by firewire you cna view the preview on the cam screen. This in turn, if it has analogie out, could be connected to a tv adn used to send a preview to a tv screen. Sometimes this way can have a time lag, so isn't good for editing, but great for checking if the picture fits the viewable area.



Page 146 -147
Preview Playback Options
• View on the dialog box Preview Window: Select to preview the selected
filter in the Preview Window of the dialog box
• View on the project Preview Window: Select to preview the selected filter
in VideoStudio¡¦s Preview Window.
ULEAD VIDEOSTUDIO USER GUIDE 147
• External playback device: Select a device where to preview your clip with
the filter applied. You can use a DV camcorder¡¦s LCD monitor or another
device such as a TV. If your display card supports two output devices, select
Dual Head Device to preview the clip on the other device connected to your
display card.
• Options: Click to adjust or modify the properties of the selected external
playback device.
• Description: Displays

I'm afraid this says exactly the same as above, it doesn't mean you can use a 2nd pc monitor.

[Jerry Meloon]

I don't want to get bogged down in word games here, but the final part of the last page clearly says that if you have a dual-head device then the Preview screen can be made to appear by itself on the alternate output.

Grant you that this is not "new" material... just a mirror of what's in the smaller preview screen, but that preview playback (in a full frame mode) is exactly what I'm trying to obtain so it can be projected.

The preview preference has been properly set for dual-head device but all I can get on the second screen is the desktop .

My suspicion might be that this was written for an intended function, but that the capability never got implemented because ULead went on to version 11 (which might have it?).

Jerry

[skier-hughes]

I'm sorry, but the way I read it it doesn't mean a 2nd pc monitor but a monitoring device such as the tv.
It was not implented in VS 11 and it was not implemented in X2.
I can't say anything else as I'm under NDA, but from what I've been told by Corel employees no version of VS has ever had this facility.