"New" Movie Filter?

boxy · Post by **boxy** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:41 pm

Hey, guys. Been awhile since I've posted anything here.... But I'm still a VS11+ user!

Many of the people talk about shooting in 24p for that 'film look.' I was wondering if there's a way using VS11+ to get that look with straight video. The "Old Movie" filter is close but it removes the color. Has anyone come up with a formula or have suggestions to make video look like new film?

Hope I made myself clear.

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:57 pm

Welcome back,

Main video track= clip with Old Film filter applied.
Overlay Track#1= copy of same clip in Main Track, Fit to screen, Transparency set to about 50%. You might also tweak the Color Saturation, and Contrast on the overlay clip..

This will allow the Old Film filter to still be seen, and have some color..

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:17 pm

Also, X2 comes with some nice NewBlue Film FX. I'm sure you could buy them for v11+.

boxy · Post by **boxy** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:24 pm

Whoa... That was fast! Appreciate it, mates.

I can't believe I didn't think of the overlay method because I have used it to make other effects 'by hand.' Thanks for that reminder!

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:27 pm

boxy wrote:Whoa... That was fast! Appreciate it, mates.

I can't believe I didn't think of the overlay method because I have used it to make other effects 'by hand.' Thanks for that reminder!

Sorry it took me so long

I had to try out my theory first before posting it..

boxy · Post by **boxy** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:45 am

Ron P. wrote:Sorry it took me so long I had to try out my theory first before posting it..

Ha ha.... It's all good.

The old film filter was okay, not quite what I was looking for so I tried a few different filters. Watercolor, oil paint, comic, charcoal (when adjusted came pretty close). I used a slight bit of 'average' on the overlay that blurred it a pinch. Got close but still not completely satisfied.

Then I remember I have FXbench and went throught it's menu.... SUPER8! Yea, that's much better. Now, I still might want to tweak the tint and color balance a pinch but it does a pretty good job. And there's no need to overlay either, although I still might mess around with one just to see what I can come up with.

Just for the record, it's not like I absolutely must have this look, it's just something I thought of and maybe one day should I want to get that look I'll know what my options are. And thanks again for the replies!

EDIT*** On second thought.... I just rendered a clip with the SUPER8 filter and it's way too jittery. I thought it had potential. I was wrong.

Oh, well.

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:29 am

Jeff (Black Lab) pointed out the New Blue Film FX. You might have a look at the samples on their web site. New Blue FX produces some of the best FX plug-ins and they're not cheap. I do know you can get the effect you're looking for with them..

http://www.newbluefx.com/film-effects.html?vmcchk=1

I just looked and the price just for the New Blue Film FX is about $160 (US). However they come with VS Pro X2, and you can upgrade it for only $49.99. Hummm, let's see to get those filters, spend $$$$, or upgrade my program AND get those filters for only $50..

Just a thought..

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:29 am

Ron, you sound like a pitchman for Corel.

boxy · Post by **boxy** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:58 am

Ron P. wrote:Jeff (Black Lab) pointed out the New Blue Film FX. You might have a look at the samples on their web site. New Blue FX produces some of the best FX plug-ins and they're not cheap. I do know you can get the effect you're looking for with them..

http://www.newbluefx.com/film-effects.html?vmcchk=1

I just looked and the price just for the New Blue Film FX is about $160 (US). However they come with VS Pro X2, and you can upgrade it for only $49.99. Hummm, let's see to get those filters, spend $$$$, or upgrade my program AND get those filters for only $50..

Just a thought..

And what a thought it is! Maybe it IS time for me to upgrade. The newbluefx look nice, not to mention all of the new features with PRO X2.

I have one simple question. Will my VS11+ project files convert? I would hate to have to reedit all of my previous work if I wanted to work on any of them in PRO X2. Thanks again!

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:59 am

Each new version of VS is backwards-compatible with earlier versions. In other words, you can open project files made in earlier versions in later versions, but not vice versa. In X2, you can also save a project file in VS 11 and VS 10 formats...