Convert step got some problems

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:08 pm

Hi
Think this is a continuation of my 16.9 thread but may be wrong. Followed Trevor¡¦s workaround to convert holiday avi clips shot in 4.3 to 16.9 and then created mpeg prior to creating menu, chapters, audio etc etc prior to attempting to create ISO (mpeg file is 7.5 GB as it¡¦s 140 mins).

When you try to burn you get ¡§Convert step got some probs¡¨ (257.0.0). I¡¦ve tried the same process without any menus etc and you get the same message so I'm assuming its something to do with the 4.3/16.9 malarkey.

When you right clip the project file in the timeline it shows as 4.3 even when you apply the workaround as advised by Trevor (is this what you would expect?) However, the project properties in the drop down show 16.9 as I changed this as advised prior to saving. (I used the attributes button, checked distort clip and then chose fit to screen and keep aspect ratio as described by Trevor.

There¡¦s nothing unusual about the mpeg-7.5GB 720*576 variable 6000 kbps and LPCM audio.

I¡¦ve got in-laws (more like outlaws actually) coming down for Christmas and my name will be mud if I don¡¦t crack this mission before then!!).
Much appreciate your time as usual.

Antonio

Use Vista Home Premium
Pro X2 and oodles of disk space and RAM

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:23 pm

Hi

Are you using Duel Layer discs or single layer discs

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:32 pm

I've converted 4:3 clips to a 16:9 video before with no problems, so I don't think that is the issue.

That error message usually refers to a corrupt clip, either in the project or menu. Since you got the same message after removing the menu that points to the project itself. Keep in mind it could be a video clip, audio clip, transition, etc.

Many times the culprit is an MP3 file. Do you have any of those in your project? Other times it is caused by some of the 3D transitions. Any of those used? I would try eliminating any of those first, if you have them. If not, I'm afraid you might have to find it by trial and error.

What I have done in the past is open my project (let's call it Project A) and delete, say the last half of the project, then "Save As" Project B. Now render it. If you get the error again you are on the right track and can continue splitting/saving until you find the culprit. If you do not get the message open your Project A and delete the first half, "Save As" Project C, and render, again following the same steps until you find the problem.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:38 pm

Hi Antonio

At 140 minutes thats very long for a standard DVD, or are you burning to a duel layer disc.

For single layer disc read on........
Reading your post you indicate using Avi. The project has to be converted to Pal DVD (mpeg 2) file,
for a single layer disc has to be under 4.3 Gb.
In order to do this you have to reduce the bit rate to about 3800kbps Variable.

How
First right click a clip in the timeline/properties and view the field order, use this in the following template.
Change your Project Properties to :-

24 bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-PAL), 16:9
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 3800 kbps)
Audio data rate: 256 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio, 48 KHz, 2/0(L,R)

Render your project Share Create Video File¡XSame as Project Settings.

Start a new project, Share Create Disc¡XAdd Video.

As you are using a file below 4.3 Gb there will be no ¡¥title¡¦ conversion.
You should see Convert Menu after pressing the burn button.

If you are using Duel Layer discs then increase the bit rate to 7000kbps in the template above.

Its nearly Christmas

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:09 pm

Many thanks both for these prompt and helpful responses.

I'm using standard DVDs but have used these settings followed by reduction with DVD Shrink for eons and never had a problem.

I had 4 plus hours of Disneyworld Florida and split into two projects and created two separate mpeg files (following the 16.9 conversion). I got the error message with Florida 1 but did not get it with Florida 2 so you are right in highlighting corrupt video/audio or glitches etc.

My only audio for the menu is WMA format and I just use the barn door transitions (latter used on both so not the problem).

I will analyse the project and report back.

Clock is ticking now so have to go back to the drawing board.

Many thanks again and regards for the festive season.

Antonio

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:17 pm

My only audio for the menu is WMA format

You've ruled out the menu. You want to look at the project's audio.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:18 pm

I¡¦ve got in-laws (more like outlaws actually) coming down for Christmas and my name will be mud if I don¡¦t crack this mission before then!!).

The inlaws will just have to stay at your place until you get it done.

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:00 am

My project consisted of ten clips after I had multi trimmed so it was easy to split the project into two, five clip projects, each just over 60 minutes to try to isolate the corrupt clip.

Incredibly when split into two the mpeg files created were fine and I was able to burn to DVD or ISO image etc etc. However, when you combine the projects you get the error message already described. I checked the properties of each, the transitions and everything else but nothing seemed out of sync or suspicious.

I even created a new mpeg for the whole project without menus, chapters, audio and still got the infamous message ¡§Convert step got some problems¡¨!!! I then decided to dispense with orthodoxy and the textbook and just created an ISO from the project without creating an mpeg file and, hey presto, it worked.

Just about enough to make someone turn to the bottle aint it.

Season¡¦s greetings

Antonio

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:05 am

Tell a lie. Houston we still have a problem!

Pro X2 created the ISO from the raw project.
DVD Shrink shrank it
However, Roxio is unable to burn the DVD (getting stuck after 3.8 out of 4.1 Gb)

More confused and despondent than ever now!!

Antonio

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:57 am

Hi Antonio

I am a little confused.
I have tried DVD Shrink to open an ISO file and am unable to do so.
Maybe my version can¡¦t do that.
I can however open a TS folder and shrink that.

Going back to Video Studio, did you try rendering your video using a lower bit rate.
This will create an Mpeg lower than 4.3 Gb
This will allow you to burn a disc, ISO or TS Folder using VS without further rendering.

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:16 pm

Hi Trevor

Merry Christmas

My version of Shrink (3.2) works with disc images. File/Open disc image etc...

What I was trying to get at earlier was that I have always been told to follow the divine wisdom of creating an mpeg folder prior to the burn but this time burning direct from the project (worked to a degree) where the mpeg failed!!!

I have now created 5 individual mpeg folders for each clip in the project and tested each one by going to the create DVD screen and they are individually fine. However, even with individual mpegs I still get the "convert having some probs with this step" message. This occurs whether I use menus, chapters or whatever.

Logic defies me now as this project is 7.5 Gb and 140 mins yet the other project I burned succesfully was bigger and longer!!!

Guess I will just have to take the flak from the in-laws when they watch the second half of recent Florida vacation but not the first.

Cheers

Antonio

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:11 am

Hi Antonio

Thanks for clarifying the use of Shrink and Iso files.
I was using the icons at the top of the window, Open File etc No link for ISO files there.

There was a post on Iso software burners earlier this month, don¡¦t think anybody mentioned DVD Shrink.
You learn something every day.

tonyjer wrote:I have now created 5 individual mpeg folders for each clip in the project and tested each one by going to the create DVD screen and they are individually fine. However, even with individual mpegs I still get the "convert having some probs with this step" message. This occurs whether I use menus, chapters or whatever.

Are you saying that you have created 5 mpegs about 1.5 Gb (30 mins each) and you cannot create individual ISO for each file.

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:25 pm

Hi Trevor

Apologies for delay but been rather pre-occupied with in-laws. Now gone back thankfully!!

Yes-I created 5 individual mpegs and tried to put them together into an ISO without success (Incidentally this is the method I used with Windows ME which had the 4mb mpeg file size limit).

Now the dust has settled I'll probably recapture and ssee what happens then.

Many thanks and best wishes for the New Years.

Antonio

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm

A good burner software that handle ISO well and is free is BurnAware see here:
http://www.burnaware.com/

tonyjer · Post by **tonyjer** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:36 pm

Thanks but I don't believe this has anything to do with the ISO burner employed. After all it worked fine with the other half of the same project!!

This is some bizarre glitch in the avi clips which are not obvious to the naked eye. It's also starnge that whatever it is doesn't seem to be a problem when you separate the the files and try to burn them individually.

Still confused to say the least.

Never want to see that incoherent, inarticulate message again (sounds like Mandarin Chinese to me anyway)

Antonio