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output size smaller than indicated

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I've noticed this quirk a few times using VS Pro X2.

I recently edited a 2 hr 20 min video with Project properties set at 8000kb vbr.

When I came to the create dvd stage, it would not let me proceed until I reduced the bit rate lower to fit on a 8.5 gig dual layer dvd. I understand the reasons for this but the final output is puzzling to me.

I reduced the bit rate just enough to get below "red line" in the create dvd section. (full yellow showing)

The final size of the rendered project was only 7.4 gig!
This seems to be a full gig below the available space on a blank disc.

I actually prefer to render my projects larger and use another program to shrink and burn them.

Question: is there a work around in VS X2 that will allow you to render a final project output when you are in the "red line" area of content.

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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

Render your project to DVD Mpeg 2 before going to the burner module.
Share Create Video File. Createa a compatible Mpeg 2 file.

Or
From the burner module select Create DVD Folders, this will create the DVD structure in TS folders. Using these in a third party program to burn the DVD.
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From the burner module select Create DVD Folders, this will create the DVD structure in TS folders. Using these in a third party program to burn the DVD.
Or, given your preference to shrink, you can create the DVD Folder and then apply a program like DVD Shrink or Nero Recode to it and reduce it to fit on your chosen size DVD. And I think you will be pleased with the result... :lol:
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Thank you both for the reply BUT the problem I described, perhaps not well, is that I can NOT get to the point where I can create DVD folders because VS is telling me that the project is too large to fit on a 8.5 dvd.

When I reduce the bit rate just enough to pass to the next step, my final output was only 7.4 gig in size. Seems to be an unnecessary reduction in bit rate.

I do use DVD Shrink and would like to output a video_ts folder set (from VS X2) that is perhaps 9.5 gig in size. VS Pro X2 will not let me do that.

Why it says I have reached the limit and then turns out a final set of folders that is only 7.4 gig bewilders me.
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Hi

Yep i got that error mesage but it gave me the option to ignore it.
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I was going to say the same thing -- I simply ignored the error message and proceeded to 'burn' a DVD Folder anyway. But that is subject to the qualification that in the few cases where I have done this, I had specified as the default size a single layer DVD. My project sizes were all well over 4.3/4.7 GB. But all were (IIRC) *below* the size of a dual layer disc. So I am just not sure whether there is an absolute upper limit on project size beyond which you don't have the option to ignore the error message... :cry:
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Post by sjj1805 »

This is another good reason for burning to a hard drive folder rather than directly to disc. Before the program starts to do its stuff it has to make a guestimate concerning the eventual size of the completed disc. Whilst it is reasonably good at making this guestimate it is just that - an educated guess.

Burn to a hard drive folder and you will see the exact size of the completed "DVD" - if it fits then simply burn the folder to a Video DVD disc with your favourite software. If its too big then you can either use DVD Shrink or you can reduce your bit rate settings and start the process again.
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