Video studio X2 Windows Media Library.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:28 pm

Hi

Video studio X2 Windows Media Library.

This option allows you to select three media library pages, video, audio, and images.
It appears that the program automatically links to files within the My Documents structure.
In my case the My Music folder was particularly full.
X2 took some time in loading the some 1300 audio files to the library. This slowed X2 to a standstill.
The automatic selection of files seems a little hit and miss and it is difficult to understand which files have been added and indeed why, Some files being added whilst other similar files are missed. The Image and Video libraries
reacting in a similar fashion.
I cannot simply remove the files from the library, the delete options being greyed out.

By deleting the library page files in:-
C:\Documents and Settings\Trevor & Lynn\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Corel VideoStudio\12.0
I was able to clear the library, Only to have it auto import when selecting the library page. (yes I know , don¡¦t go there)

Removing the files from My Music Folder to another drive seems to have done the trick. A little extreme to say the least.

The question is can we disable this auto insertion of media files, or at least allocate a folder for the libraries use.
I¡¦ve search the forum and found some reference to this but no solutions.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:36 pm

I must admit, I have never used this feature, and it sounds like I should be glad I didn't. I don't know why software companies insist on making my life "easier" by deciding what I like. Just because I have 2,000 audio files and 5,000 images doesn't mean I want them all in my library. Leave me alone!

I feel better now.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:23 pm

Hi Jeff

I totally agree with you.
But how do I stop it.......

Go on Jeff click the Media Library Audio, let me know what happens.

Mind you if you have Images in My Pictures that maybe worth a click as well...........

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:07 pm

Trevor

the delete options being greyed out.

Are you sure you are selcting the thumnail. If it is selected then the Delete option s/b working?
BTW I have just loaded 50 Jpg's into My Pictures and none of them appear in the Library.(Yes I did reboot) Also in my "Application Data\Ulead Systems\Corel VideoStudio\12.0" folder there are no library files or folders!

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:08 pm

Hi John
Are you selecting the Windows Media Library option

The library files are called :-
VS_MediaLib_Audio.dat
VS_MediaLib_Video.dat

The normal library files being....
VS_Audio.dat
VS_Video.dat etc...........

Initially the audio file ended up being in excess of 2,000Kb after loading most of my Music Files.
The default size being 4 Kb.
Deleting the library file did no good as the audio files loaded to the library again, and it took a long time.

Eventually moving the files on the hard drive allowed me to delete the library file and clear the library, with the exception of a few files/thumbnails.

Things have advanced a little with the Media Library not doing much at all.
And now like you can add images, audio, video with no effect in the library
The import media folder is greyed out and cannot delete thumbnails

I don¡¦t really know whats going on.

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:03 pm

Trevor

The default size being 4 Kb.

That's what mine are.

When you say:
The library files are called :-
VS_MediaLib_Audio.dat
VS_MediaLib_Video.dat
What do these contain, ?the sample files?

The normal library files being....
VS_Audio.dat
VS_Video.dat etc...........
And are these the ones that we add?

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:52 pm

Hi John

The Dat files hold the details of the library content.
VS_Audio.dat
VS_Video.dat

these are the normal library pages, yes the ones we add thumbnails to.

The VS_MediaLib_Video.dat are new to X2.

You should have an option to select a Windows Media library having three options.
Video Images and Audio
These pages seem to automatically insert files from folders within the My Doc's structure.

If you were to delete one of these from the C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\ Application Data\Ulead Systems\Corel VideoStudio\12.0

Then restart VS the library page would revert to its default content.
But when i select the media library it starts to insert the thumbnails over again.
And thats my problem.....

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:20 pm

But when i select the media library it starts to insert the thumbnails over again.
And thats my problem.....

But, unfortunately, I think it is doing exactly what it is designed to do.

Like I said earlier, the programmers at Corel think they are smarter than you and I, and they apparently think that we use every single audio and video clip that we store in My Documents. Therefore, in their infinite widsom, they are saving us the step of having to go in and pull all of those clips into the VS library.

Save yourself the trouble, Trevor, and ignore the Media Library like I do.

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:20 am

Trevor,
I agree with Jeff. Ignore, and stay clear of it. Corel's newest program, Digital Studio 2010 provides no way to avoid this. At least with VS, so long as you avoid using the Windows Media Library, you need not worry about the program trying to insert everything, need it or not.

I think this function is over the top, for even the most computer illiterate.

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:29 am

My version of VS is CVS 12.0.98.1 Pro
I put that in just in case it makes a difference. I have never used the Windows Media Library feature as my workflow goes:
Create Folder for project. Put all clips, images into this folder. Create VSP file. Then create seperate library for video, image. and audio with same name as project file. So this keeps everything together for one project. All stored on an external HD. So I've scatched my head as to what use this WML facility is? That said I have opened the video and image media libraries are they are empty. There are files in My Docs, My Videos and My Picture folders. When one of these folders is open the Load Video or Image is greyed out and if whilst say "Video Library" is open and I go to File, Import Media to File to Library, Insert Video the Library immediately reverts to the normal Video Library. So Trevor has the problem of getting rid of hundreds of unwanted clips and I can't import any, not that I want to, I'm with Jeff and Ron, leave it alone but then someone has been paid, presumably, to write this bit of the program and we as consumers have bought it. Shall we all apply for a partial refund?

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:39 am

John,
You should have a selection in the Library menu called Windows Media Library, that has 3 separate libraries, Video, Images, Audio. Windows Media Library automatically looks in your My Videos, My Pictures, and My Music folders under your My Documents (XP) or the respective ones on Vista. It proceeds to insert all, which slows it down..

If yours does not, I would not complain, and would not try to fix it.

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:53 am

Hi Ron
When I open the Video/Image/Audio Library they are all empty (and long may they remain so) although I have some files in the My Docs/My Pic etc folders. Also the Load Video/Image etc icon is grayed out. I'm not complaining though. Its just inrigues me as to why one setup of the software works differently to others. Got to be something wrong with the programming somewhere!
I just wonder if it could be a difference in the UK version and the USA version of the software. Although Trevor is in the UK he's an old cheapscate and bought his copy through the US download site in a special promotion sale.

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:30 pm

I don't know why yours does not load into the Windows Media Libraries, and I doubt it has to do with US vs UK versions. The Load icon being subdued is the correct behavior for the Windows Media Libraries, since the Load action is automated. Corel doesn't want us thinking on what clips we should load...

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:02 pm

Hi Ron

Although we agree that the Windows Media Library is not fit for purpose.
Are you saying that your library works ok, that you can access the ¡¥Load¡¦ folder,
and can delete thumbnails from the library by right clicking. My options for both are greyed out.

Auto import is a little hit and miss, adding some folders and ignoring others.
Two audio files have been imported from the XP All User profile, whilst the rest are from my profile.

I know I am being advised to ignore the library, I would still like to know why? I just like a puzzle.......
I expect the program to work, whether i use it fully is up to me, but it should work.

And John, Cheapskate maybe, thats just my upbringing, just looking after the pennies...........
A bit further North and I would want it for nothing.
And a bit less of the old if you don¡¦t mind

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:48 pm

Trevor,

By correct behavior, I mean that the Load icon is grayed out, you can not manually load clips into the Windows Media Libraries. No, I can not delete any clips in those libraries. This is a fully automated process, why? I don't know. I guess for those that don't know how to navigate their computers to insert the clips themselves.

Experiencing how the Windows Media Libraries work, imagine launching the program, and it opens into that library. Where you have no control, to stop it from looking and loading the clips automatically. That is what Corel's Digital Studio 2010 does. I have personally expressed this dislike to Corel, in writing and by phone. Letting them know that most users of VS, do not like this type of function. How it affects performance.

I can't explain the hit-and-miss insertion, but when you open the WM Libraries, and it starts inserting everything that it comes across, is how Corel designed it. Might have been a good theory (looks good on paper), but in reality, well you know the reality..