Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

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Condemor
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Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by Condemor »

Hello

When I import some footage from my camera and play the clip in Clip mode, it shows horizontal lines all over (interlacing). If I switch to Project mode it does not. Any idea why?

On the capture menu I choose:
Format: DV
Options - Video Properties: DV-type 1

And the File - Project properties menu:
AVI files
PAL 25fps
Lower field first
Compression: DV video encoder 1
Audio PCM

It shows ok while it is capturing. Interlacing is only while playings clips in Clip mode
Thanks
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Post by Condemor »

I have just tried one thing. If I capture using format DVD instead of DV and then DVD PAL HQ 16_9 under Options, the clip shows fine all the time.

My camera uses miniDV tapes and is 16:9 format, hence choosing DV format for capturing.. Do I lose quality by capturing on DVD mode?
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Post by sjj1805 »

It is a camcorder not a camera!
a camera takes photographs, a camcorder takes videos.
Yes you would lose quality by capturing in DVD mode, you need to connect your camcorder to the computer by way of an IEEE1394 firewire cable - also known as an iLink cable.

Throw away that USB cable they gave you with it, it is no good for transferring video, its only useful for connecting the camcorder as a WebCam or for moving still images if your particular camcorder is capable of taking them.
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

And what version of Video Studio are you using?
What is your operating system? please update your profile to include this info.
Have you manually updated Direct X? This process has cured some problems with VS
Is your version of VS fully patched.

The Properties are standard DV-Avi except the Audio which should be DV-Audio ¡VPal

Go to File -Preferences and tick- Show Messages- When you insert the first video you will get an info window, choose ok/yes, this should change the project properties for you. Note its the first video, so best to start a new project.
I don¡¦t think the project properties would cause this affect.
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Post by Condemor »

Hello

I already use a firewire cable, the USB can only be used to extract the digital photos, but not the tape.

Trevor, I use VideoStudio Pro X2 with the official patch and Windows 7 32bit.
I do not get DV-Audio-Pal as an option from Project properties. Only:
PCM
IMA ADPCM
CCITT A-law
CCITT u-law
GSM 6.10
Microsoft ADPCM

And for Video Compression on that same menu:
DV -Video Encoder type 1
DV -Video encoder type 2
MJPEG Copressor

Not sure why I get interlaciong only on Clip view but not Project view

Thanks everyone for your replies
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi
Just to confirm----If you are capturing from Mini-DV tape using Firewire
And selecting DV as the capture format then your video properties should be similar to:-

Microsoft AVI files
24 bits, 720 x 576, 16:9, 25 fps
Lower Field First
DV Video Encoder -- type 1
DV Audio -- PAL, 48.000 kHz, 16 Bit, Stereo

The playback may just be related to VS preview,
When you Create a Video File does this condition still persist?
If no, then I would just ignore it, a little annoying I know.

You use windows 7, there is a sticky at the top of this forum, maybe there¡¦s some indications there.
Are they any updates for Windows 7 from the Corel web site?
I use XP and therefore cannot follow the process using W7.
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Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by boxy »

Okay, I am using VS X2 have noticed something....

When I was using VS11+ I could capture stills from the timeline and they would be just as smooth as can be. Now when I try to do it with VS X2 the interlacing is pretty bad.

I have 11 installed on an old computer and I can take the same clip from X2 and place it in the timeline of VS11 and it is smooth! Captures looks great!

Another thing I've noticed with 12.... When I play a project in the timeline it's fine. When I click pause, there is a one second delay and the image deinterlaces. The horizontals lines are very prominant. I click play and there is a one second delay and the image reinterlaces and plays smooth. It does not do this in VS11.

Anyway, just wondering if this is something any of the experts are/were aware of. Any possible remedy? Besides going back to VS11, that is. :)

As usual, thanks in advance!
Trevor Andrew

Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Boxy

From File – Preferences-Capture tab

Make sure you have ‘Image Capture Deinterlaced’ selected

I ran a test on X2 and un checking this option caused the images to show the interlacing, some worse than others.

How are you capturing the screen image, from ‘Clip’ mode or ‘Project Playback’ mode? (Use Tools-Save Current Frame as Image)

Playback
Are you playing video or captured images, images may show the interlacing if you captured as interlaced.

Compare your settings in VS 11 to X2
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Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by boxy »

trevor andrew wrote:Hi Boxy

From File – Preferences-Capture tab

Make sure you have ‘Image Capture Deinterlaced’ selected

I ran a test on X2 and un checking this option caused the images to show the interlacing, some worse than others.

How are you capturing the screen image, from ‘Clip’ mode or ‘Project Playback’ mode? (Use Tools-Save Current Frame as Image)

Playback
Are you playing video or captured images, images may show the interlacing if you captured as interlaced.

Compare your settings in VS 11 to X2
I have 'Image Capture Deinterlace' checked. When I compare the two lists of options I notice 11+ has one in the GENERAL section called "Default Field Order" which I have selected 'frame.' I do not see this on the X2. I'm wondering if this is what's making the difference.

The only way to capture screen images is when it's in 'project' mode. In 'clip' mode the option is not available.

I am playing video.
Trevor Andrew

Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by Trevor Andrew »

I dont understand why you are getting the interlaces frames using X2 and VS 11 is ok??????????

Once rendered does the interlacing still show, or is it just there in the preview...............
boxy wrote:The only way to capture screen images is when it's in 'project' mode. In 'clip' mode the option is not available.
I am playing video.
You can save a still image in 'clip mode' using the 'Clip' menu or the Save As Still Image from the 'Video Tab' below the library.
But this option saves images as the video frame size, not preview size.
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Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by boxy »

Rendered it's fine. Like I say, when the clip is in the timeline paused it's bad. As soon as I click play it smooths out. It's really only a problem if I want to capture some screen shots to use as stills. It's not like that in VS11

And I'm still curious about the one item in the preferences in 11, "Default Field Order" which isn't in X2. Not sure... That could be what's causing it. But why isn't that an option in X2? Very strange....
Trevor Andrew

Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Boxy

As far as I know the default field order sets the order for a new project.

Where possible the project properties should be set to reflect the video files properties.
So if your video uses lower field then edit the project properties to match.

Video Studio can match the project properties to the video files, providing the video is compatible.
File – Preferences—Show Messages when inserting First Video, will show an info window.
If it does not show then you may need change the project properties manually.

Note it has to be a new project and the first video added should show this info window. (select Details to view)
A lot depends on the type of video file you are using as to haw VS reacts, and there are many many types, it copes with most.

Capturing Screen Shots.
Use Project Playback-Tools-Save current frame as still image
Set File preferences-Edit-Image Resampling--Keep Aspect Ratio
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Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by boxy »

Hey Trevor...

Thanks for all your time and replies.

This is something that has only happened recently. Never a problem with VS11+ and it's not anything to get too stressed out over either. The worst case scenario: I take the file and use 11 to get captures.

But enough on this. I have noticed something else now and perhaps you can explain.

When I look at properties of two similar rendered files.... On one the 'file format' says MPEG-2 and the other says NTSC HDDVD. Everything else can be identical, except maybe the total size will be different by a miniscule amount. Do you know why they have different format names? Also note that when the NTSC HDDVD file is placed in a New Project timeline nothing happens but when the MPEG-2 file is placed in it the "Change Project Properties?" box opens.
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Re: Interlacing on Clip view but not Project

Post by Black Lab »

Apparently one is being read as SD, the other HD. The message box comes from the fact that you must have it set in Preferences for it to ask you if you want the project properties to match the first clip. This, of course, happens with SD MPEG2 clips. The message does not work with HD clips.
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