Very new to this !! Black & White only ??!!

covlass
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Very new to this !! Black & White only ??!!

Post by covlass »

Hi all
I am in the Uk and using moviefactory 5 (although I do have 30 day trial for vesion 6) along side Grabster AV250. My pc is vista and the problem that I have is that all my video's are capturing and burning to DVD in black and white. The sound is fine picture is clear but just no colour my VHS is attached to PC via the grabster
Could any one tell me where or what I have done wrong
MAny thanks SHaron
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Post by sjj1805 »

This normally occurs when you have European PAL equipment and try to copy/extract/record from an NTSC source (North american / Japanese).
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Post by covlass »

Thank you for your reply I have a HP computer and am using a UK (JMB) video player and am trying to put old compact video cassettes onto DVD, there for would it be because of the capture software that it is black and white. Sorry I am not very good at this as this is my first attempt at doing this, Would I be better with some other capture device or software?
Regards Sharon
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Post by sjj1805 »

You still haven't given me much information regarding your particular HP Computer:
Please click here --> Image so that we can then view your system specifications.

Is it a laptop, is it a desktop?
I use a TV card to get TV/VHS recordings into my computer.

You mention you have a UK (JMB) video player but what about the tapes?
Are they Region 2 (Europe) or are they Region 1 (U.S.A. / Japan)
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Post by DVDDoug »

I think the Grabster comes with its own capture software, and for the capture step, you're usually better-off using the software that's specially made to work with the hardware.

If it came with Movie Factory, it may have also come with some other capture software.

Once you have a file on your hard drive (hopefully in color), you should be able to use Movie Factory to make a DVD (hopefully).
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Post by covlass »

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

Memory: 1014MB RAM

Display Devices
---------------
Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Controller 0 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal

Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1103 (English)

Sound Devices
-------------
Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_103C2A50&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5910 (English)

Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Type: WDM

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5910 (English)

Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5910 (English)
Description: DigitalIn (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5910 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Description: Line In (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5910 (English)

The tapes are Region 2

Thankyou for your replies
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Post by skier-hughes »

You speak of region 2, so are we to assume this is a commercial video? If so it no doubt has copy protection on it which could be causing the black and white.
No legal way of solving this.

If you are just telling us you have recorded them yourself as a region 2 video, then it could be the type of connection. A std vhs will use composite connections, the std red/white/yellow, If you use an s-video connection this can cause black and white as the colour carrier is different in the two connections.
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Post by covlass »

Thankyou Grahma

Yes they are old home movies taken on an old camcorder wgich I no longer have, so am capturing them via VHS player. On the Terratec there are 4 cables red, yellow and white also a S Video these are connected also to VHS player using an scart adapter am I using the wrong cables? Should I remove the S Video.

Again Thankyou to all for your help I am not very good at tech kind of things

Kind regards Sharon
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Post by sjj1805 »

Might be getting somewhere now, You are using RCA outputs to SVideo and then converting the SVideo to SCART. Whilst it probably is possible to do that, each change induces a possible place where the "error" could occur.

You can get a SCART to RCA lead - this will at least get rid of the SVideo aspect.
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Post by skier-hughes »

yep, don't use the s-video, use the yellow rca connector.
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Post by covlass »

Thank you again for your help

I have removed the s lead and am now using the red yellow & white cables but still no joy, sound is fine picture is fine can burn to disc which will play on my DVD and can capture to PC but still no colour :(

Regards Sharon
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can you precisely say how the connections are made and what they go from and in to.
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Post by skier-hughes »

Is it this that you have?
http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Gra ... _2348.html

So scart from vhs player to red/white/yellow cables to grabster to usb into pc?

If so, have you tried capturing with the magix software they say is included?

Also, have you set the options in MF so that you set both UK as your region and PAL as the type of video to be used when you installed the software? It isn't clear that you need to do both.
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Post by covlass »

Yes Graham That the is the Grabster I am using but MF 5 is included in the cd which came with it it not Magix.

In MF I can not ifnd where it sets my region as UK. I have also tried playing the VHS through my new DV camcorder which plays on the screen and captures on the PC but again only in black and white

Kind Regards Sharon
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Post by skier-hughes »

I'm not sure where you can go to reset the region and ntsc/PAL as I don't use MF. Hopefully someone else will chip in.

WHen you use your new dv camcorder, do you see the video in colour on the camcorder screen?

Where you capturing using MF then as well? Which ended in a B/W picture?

Try using movie maker to capture your movie via the camcorder, so long as you connect this by firewire to your pc.
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutorial ... DV-AVI.htm

Whereabouts in UK are you?
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