Unable to capture in anything other than DV mode - VS X2

awm1971 · Post by **awm1971** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:34 am

G'day, a newbie here with a problem I've had for a while starting with UVS8 and now is present in my recently purchased Videostudio X2 Upgrade. So far I've been unable to achieve a resolution with Corel support on this.

Videostudio appears to be unable to capture video in any other format other then DV. When I try to capture in DVD or MPEG, I get a capture fail message saying the file is corrupt and is being automatically deleted. It appears to take the data stream in fine it just seems to bum out during the conversion stage at the end once you stop capturing.

This is a repeat of a problem I had with Videostudio 8 (what I have upgraded from)which I was never able to resolve. This used to work fine (with VS8)but stopped one day and no matter how many repairs/reinstalls I tried it failed to ever work again. Now it's doing it with VSx2pro straight out of the box.

My drivers are all up to date from the manufacturer's websites, and while it's not the newest machine, it is quite capable of the video editing tasks I wish it to do.

So far I've done the usual re-install, clean install, the recommended Direct X and C++ installs, reinstalled Win XP all to no avail. The latest advice I have received was to uninstall some of my other video editing tools, FRAPs AVIsynth and the like as 'maybe' this was causing conflicts. However I tend not to believe in this as they were installed several years after the UVS8 problem surfaced, and it just feels like it's a bit of straw clutching. Another suggestion was to remove Nero and Roxio from my PC, neither of which I have as I use old Ulead Burn Now.

I capture via a generic firewire card (Sunix) either directly from my digital camera (Canon 920i) or through a Canopus ADVC100 for my older analogue stuff.

The DV capture is fine and all of the other functions within X2 appear to work fine. Anybody got any ideas?

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:27 am

Welcome to the forums,

The problem you're experiencing is the analog-->digital conversion. Why it stopped working with VS8 is unknown. This first surfaced when the capture driver was changed from DSW (Direct Show for Windows), to Intervideo's own creation IVI. I think this was with VS10's Vista patch. There was a patch issued, however it was not carried forward in VS11 and now VS X2.

Try using the free capture utility called WinDV. It works with Firewire only, and captures DV. Several of us use it over VS or MSP capture. Once you have the video on your PC, then just insert them into VS for editing.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:07 am

Hi

I cannot believe its a VS problem alone.
VS 8 and X2 are so far apart that I cannot understand how it can be a common problem.

If the DV capture is fine and the problem is apparent from VS 8 and VS X2 then I would suspect the hardware.

You have obviously asked all the relevant questions to tech support and I assume you have carried out all the replies.
So once we have run out of ideas the only thing left I¡¦m afraid is clutching at straws.
We do not know the history of your attempts so you are bound to get repeat questions.

Firewire Card
Personally I would buy another firewire card.................

Is it a dedicated card or part of another capture card? (pci express?)

For a dedicated card, Have you replaced the firewire card?

If not , have you tried moving the card to another slot on the mother board?

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:03 pm

But I think the Canon 920i records video as a mpeg. Cannot this file be just transferred to the PC via the USB connection or under the capture tag use "Import Digital Media"? Or have i got the wrong end of the stick again

awm1971 · Post by **awm1971** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:48 am

Try 3, geez something is wrong with my work PC this morning...

Thanks for the quick reply guys.

On the Firewire card, its a bog standard 3+1 PCI card which has been in the machine for about 4 years now. I've tried changing the slot location without any change in the problem. I'll give the alternate card idea a try, is there any recommendations or ones to avoid?

With the video camera, I'm not sure what format it captures in but the transfer is by Firewire not USB. I might have the wrong model number here though I thought its a 920.

vidoman may be on to something as it appears to be to be in the conversion. I find it puzzling that the same bit of footage, coming from the same source, going through the same port on the same firewire card will fail at the end of capture in DVD/MPEG mode while work perfectly fine in DV mode, albeit producing a larger file. During both instances, the preview window is correctly showing the image and sound in sync - which is why I've never thought the firewire was the cause as the signal appears to be getting in alright.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:57 am

Erm.... captures from a camcorder by way of firewire SHOULD be in DV
when you cannot capture in other formats it is because the other format is not available from that source.

For instance.... I can capture DV with VideoStudio from my camcorder.
I can capture MPEG2 from my TV card with VideoStudio but I cannot capture DV from my TV card with VideoStudio.

This is NOT a fault - this is how it is.

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:33 am

Let me clarify my previous post. The bug in VS capture is a pass-through bug. When you connect an analog source, VCR, Hi-8 to a digital capture device like a Digital-8 camcorder or other device that has the capability of converting the analog signal to a digital one, then passing it on to your PC as a digital signal in DV format, VS refuses to accept it. This error message

fail message saying the file is corrupt and is being automatically deleted.

is indicative of that bug. However if you're not having a problem with DV, then it is not that bug.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:24 am

Hi

Steve is correct in capturing to DV format, this will create Dv-Avi files at 13 Gb per hour.
Using this option the data from the camera is literally copied/transferred to the pc, no re-coding takes place.
What you have in camera is what you get on the pc. There are no capture properties to set except the DV Type as ¡¥1¡¦

DV-Avi, this is the best method to use for a DV camcorder.

Saying that, the option to capture to DVD is also available and should work.
Any other option other than DV requires re-coding, that is the video file is created by the capture process.
Select DVD and you have to set the capture properties.

Press the Options cogwheel and select ¡¥video and audio capture properties¡¦. Here you can choose the capture properties.

awm1971 · Post by **awm1971** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:06 pm

Thanks for the further replies guys.

I've had a little bit of a play, and I'm perfectly able to capture in DV, it encodes nice MPEG files when using the share option for transfer to DVD at a later stage.

Looking at the little user guide booklet thingy that came in the box, the function entitled 'Direct Video Capturing to MPEG Format' is what's not working. This is on P62 of the user guide. On the version of X2 which I have, this is selected from a drop down menu in the capture screen by selecting the DVD or MPEG option. Doesn't seem to make any difference to the end result, after the data transcoding step, a capture fail pop-up window comes up saying the file is corrupt, unsuable and is being deleted.

DV capture is fine and it looks like this will be the only option to me. Nothing wrong with that, just a little bit annoying that I can't seem to get one of VSX2's features to work properly.

Does this still lean to my firewire card being potential problem?

To clear up the earlier confusion on my camera, its a Canon mv920 - my bad.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:14 pm

Your cam records in Mini-DV format, NOT MPEG-2. As has been explained, you should capture to DV-AVI.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:47 pm

Hi

Capturing to DV is the best option for your set up.

Having said that the option to capture to DVD /Mpeg 2 should still be available to you.
After all you have paid good money for this capability.
I wonder what other capture options fail ?????????

I can only go back to my original thoughts that you have exhausted all avenues.
Followed tech support and uninstalled the video programs.

Personally I would uninstall all video related software and start again.
If that don¡¦t work then back to the firewire link, which appears to be integral to a capture /graphics card.

Again I would try a new dedicated firewire card / cable

By the way, have you tried using another camera to capture video?????????????
Have you tried your camera on another pc.

Clutching at straws, but have you done everything asked of you?

What really concerns me is that you have the same problem with VS 8 and VS X2