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rayban
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Multi-Trim issues

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Have a DELL Dimension 8300 with 3GB of RAM, 500GB C: drive with 343GB avail, 1TB data drive with 500GB free, running Windows XP Professional SP2.

Have a 140mb .AVI file (1 minute and 13 seconds) and when using VS 12 to multi-trim into a total of 30 seconds it takes ten minutes to trim.

Converted the .AVI to .MPG (2) to 52MB's and took 12 minutes to trim.

My memory is at 2GB's, processor utilization is 5%, and no other programs running. Is there any way to improve the performance of Multi-trimming?

Thank you!
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Post by sjj1805 »

You wrote:....It's an AVI file ......
Sorry but that doesn't help much.
There are a small handful of file extensions that describe that a computer file is a video. These include
avi, mpeg, mov, rm, wmv, qt, swf
Plus a few others.
Think of these as groups of a certain form of video, within those groups are lots of individuals. Liken this to animals, there are dogs, cats, snakes, birds, rodents and so on.
Within these groups are several types. For instance a dog can be a Poodle, Jack Russell, Alsatian, King Charles, Greyhound etc.

The term avi can mean any one of perhaps a hundred different types such as DV, MPEG4, uncompressed, MJPEG, DivX, Xvid, RLE, YUV, Cinepak and lots more.

You need to be more specific.
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Multi-trim from a Canon elph SD1000 camera

Post by rayban »

Here is what Canon states:

Image Storage
Storage Media
SD/SDHC Memory Card, MultiMediaCard, MMC Plus Card, HC MMC Plus Card

File Format
Design rule for camera file system, DPOF Version 1.1

Image Compression
Normal, Fine

JPEG Compression Mode
Still Image: Exif 2.2 (JPEG)
Movie: AVI (Image: Motion JPEG; Audio: WAVE (Monaural))

Number of Recording Pixels
Still Image: 3648 x 2736 (Large), 2816 x 2112 (Medium 1), 2272 x 1704 (Medium 2), 1600 x 1200 (Medium 3/Date Stamp), 640 x 480 (Small), 3648 x 2048 (Widescreen)
Movie: Standard Definition: 640 x 480 (30 fps), 320 x 240 (30 fps)
Available up to 4GB or 60 min. per clip
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Post by Clevo »

Pardon the question...maybe it's obvious to others but not me... at 1min 13sec why use Multi trim? are you just testing it?
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Multi-trim from a Canon elph SD1000 camera

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Yes, this is just a test. I have clips that are five minutes long that I could never get to multi-trim so selected a short one minute file and trimmed it into five 10 second clips. At 10 minutes to finally trim is extremely long and trying to figure out why?

Thanks
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Post by sjj1805 »

Ahhh now I see, you using a Digital Camera to take videos - as opposed to a camcorder being used to take stills!

Simply put a Camera takes pictures, a Camcorder take videos and a mobile phone makes phone calls. They are all getting quite good at doing the jobs of others but when I go out on a Field Trip I still lumber lots of equipment around. The mobile phone is a handy pocket camera for recording that unexpected event - I think it also records short video clips as well.

O.K. - so something happens in front of us and the only thing we have available is not the correct tool for the job but we need to record it with whatever happens to be at hand. In your case a Digital Camera and you needed to record a video.

Dependant upon the format your device records in (yours is MJPG) you might be lucky and are able to simply import that format directly into your video editor (VideoStudio) and work with it. If you are unable to do so or you find that your video editor is struggling with tht particular format then good results can often be obtained by converting the RAW video into something else - either MPG2 or DV.

A good FREE program to do this is Super
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Multi-Trim issues

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I used the AVS Video converter 6.3 to take my original .AVI from my Digital camera taking a movie from 140MB to 40MB.

Performed five 8 second trims and it took 8 minutes to trim that into my Video Track.

Bypassing the camera as a video camera decided to use my Canon Optura Xi to Capture 1:13 seconds worth of DV video into a Project. From there I chose five 8 second clips to trim and it took 10 minutes to place those clips into the Video Track.

My PC has 2GB of memory available, no cpu usage, not connected to the Internet. I am at a loss on why it takes so long to perform this task?
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Re: Multi-trim from a Canon elph SD1000 camera

Post by sjj1805 »

rayban wrote:......
Movie: Standard Definition: 640 x 480 (30 fps), 320 x 240 (30 fps)
Available up to 4GB or 60 min. per clip
And you converted this to.....???

1. PAL = 25 fps / NTSC = 29.97 fps
So you have no doubt changed the frame rate.

2. 640 x 480 /320 x 240
PAL = 720 x 576 or 352 x 576
NTSC = 720 x 480 or 352 x 480
So no doubt you have altered the Frame Size.

3. Field Order.
What was it and have you changed it?

4. Audio.
What was it and what have you changed it to?

The more things that get changed the longer it takes. Like I said originally - Cameras are for taking pictures, Camcorders are for taking videos - mobile phones are for talking to people.
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Post by rayban »

I converted the Camera .avi to Mpeg2 per the Super program.

Let's bypass the Canon SD1000 .AVI to Mpeg conversion.

If I go directly from my Canon Optura Video Recorder (DV) to Visual Studio then try to multi-trim a 1:13 second clip into five clips, why does it take 10 minutes? There should be nothing to convert, correct?
Bypassing the camera as a video camera decided to use my Canon Optura Xi to Capture 1:13 seconds worth of DV video into a Project. From there I chose five 8 second clips to trim and it took 10 minutes to place those clips into the Video Track.

My PC has 2GB of memory available, no cpu usage, not connected to the Internet. I am at a loss on why it takes so long to perform this task?
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Post by rayban »

Still have VS9 on my machine and took the .AVI and multi-trimmed it and it placed it in my project immediately.

Took a 26GB .AVI and processed it immediately for multi-trimming.

Is there a bug in VS12 as it works fine in VS9?
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