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PC freezes on partial DVD burn
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:57 pm
by Ken Veal
I am trying to burn 3 DVDs.The file is 1 hour 1min long.Recording speed is 4X..
On first attempt the initial burn stopped at 69% and froze the PC, using a different make
Disc(both of which have been used before ok) the same thing happened at 28%, the
elapsed time counter kept moving but nothing else responded and I had to restart
the PC again..The original video was taken by me with all the usual settings I use in VS, these settings were matched through out.Constant bit rate 7000,surround sound Dol Dig audio 384 DV capture format,type 1
720x576,25fps,Pal,Lwr field !st, 4.3 AR,100% Quality,Rendered to video_TS file,
Has any one any idea why this has started to happen and how I resolve the problem please.
………………..Ken
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:49 am
by Ken Berry
Hi Ken! I note that you say 'the file is 1 hour and 1 minute long'. But can you confirm that it is a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 file which you have already converted using Share > Create Video File > DVD. Or is it a DV made from a project which you have then inserted into the burning timeline, for the conversion to mpeg-2 to occur as part of the burning process using the properties you have given?
Whatever the case, it is possible that some corruption has sneaked into what it is you are using -- though curious that it has occurred at two different places with two different discs.
I am also a little confused. You say at one point you have produced a Video_TS 'file'. In reality, that is a folder, and VS cannot burn such a folder -- only produce one. So if you are trying to burn that folder to disc, what program are you using for that? (I use Nero Burning ROM.)
Whatever the case, my own inclination would be to produce another mpeg-2 of the project, and try that in the burning module instead...
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:45 am
by sjj1805
I think we've had a previous discussion about
Video_TS Folders
Hence this thread may be causing confusion.
Kenneth,
Are you burning an MPEG2 file to a hard drive folder.
Are you then importing that MPEG2 file into the Menu Stage - i.e.
Create new project - Share Tab - Create Disc
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:55 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Ken
When you have completed the editing you have two options to creating a DVD.
1 / Share Create Video File (using the new file to create a DVD)
2 / Share Create Disc
If you are using option two and it fails, revert to option one.
Are you able to create a video file of your project using option one.??
Disc buring
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:19 am
by Ken Veal
I have followed what has been recommended in this forum throughout
with no problem with burning up to now.I have lowered the bit rate, used to use
8000 but got glitches on DVD playback, thanks to your advice with 7000
that was overcomeI also now keep the mpeg file to be burnt at about an hour.
I created a video file via the share tab (named Rhine_Cruise_DVD_1)
and saved it(thereby rendering it) to that named file in my Media hard drive in my Video_TS folder.
I then created a new project with the same settings as used in the
original project and the video file save options box.
From there I went -share- creat disc-DVD-Add video files via browsing to the Rhine Cruise file in the Video _TS folder.
Created menus and tried to burn disc at 4x speed with buffer under run
enabled.
The 1 hour 1 min refers to the info given at the bottom of the burm screen I only use VS 11+ for everything including burning.Have XP Home
Thanks for all the replies and I hope this covers all your questions
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:28 am
by Ken Berry
Ah... I now remember your earlier question(s) which revealed that you had chosen to name your storage folder Video_TS rather than it being something for burning to DVD!
In the circumstances, though, I would stick to my suggestion of converting the original project to a new mpeg-2 just in case some corruption got into the last one...
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:44 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Kenneth
When you get to the last page in the burner module, you click the Burn button.
You get a warning that this action will take some time to render. Select ok.
The blue progress bar should first indicate Convert Menu. (assuming you have a menu)
If you see convert Title then this is wrong and some property settings are incorrect.
So what do you see on the progress bar immediately after hitting the Burn button.?
disc burn
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:11 pm
by Ken Veal
ok,
Ken, I will do as you suggest and re render the project.
Trevor, I cant remember what was initially indicated on the progress bar, mainly because I was not aware of its significance but I can say I try to be very careful of keeping the same settings throughout.I will
look out for it when I re render though.I hope to report back very
shortly on the result............................Ken
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:01 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Ken
Just to clarify, if you see the Create Title on the blue progress bar, VideoStudio is rendering the main video files to the settings under the ¡¥options cogwheel¡¦.
As you have already rendered earlier in Share Create Video File there is no need to re-render.
So the Create Title should not show and the first conversion should be ¡¥Convert Menu¡¦
Repoting Back
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:08 pm
by Ken Veal
I imported the original project back into the timeline with a view to
re rendering it under a different name.To my surprise I had to relink a jpeg image that was part of the project.Could this have been the cause of the burn problem? How could I of missed this.
Any way ,I went through the process of creating more discs and - Mission Accomplished ! What a relief. Thank you for the advice.
The progress bar in the burn module displaid Convert Menu to start with.
Re naming the Folder Video_TS :- In my own little world I thought it would be sensible ( or may have thought that Video_TS files had to be in a TS folder) to name a folder that would only contain Video_TS files,
sorry if this has caused confusion to others in my requests for help.
.........................Ken
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:36 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Ken
The original project was rendered to a new video file, which you used to burn the disc.
The Jpeg image is part of the project and not the file used to burn the disc, so no the jpeg should have had no bearing on the burner problems.
Your Video_TS folder was a little confusing, but I think we have got the idea.
Basically you can save your files in any folder you like, and give it any name you like.
I name mine to reflect the movie subject, Wedding, Holiday, cruise Etc.
The Video_TS folder is created by the system during burn to hold the files that are stored on the DVD.
In addition you can also choose to create/burn this folder to the hard drive. Then use a third party to burn to disc.
Take any DVD that you have and explore its contents.
Video_TS files
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:23 am
by Ken Veal
So
Are you saying that I could save the file in a folder called for instance
"Criuse" and name the file" Rhine Cruise" without using a "_" anywhere.
When you said "The Video_TS folder is created by the system during burn to hold the files that are stored on the DVD.
In addition you can also choose to create/burn this folder to the hard drive. Then use a third party to burn to disc. "
Why do some not use VS to burn, what would be the advantages of doing so
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:56 pm
by Black Lab
When it comes to video editing I don't think there are any "rules", only personal preference and what works for you and your system.
With that said, when I load a program I always put it in the default location. As for the VS working folder, I have an external hard drive that I've named V: (for video). Each project has its own sub-folder: Christmas, Vacation, Baseball Season, etc. When I am working on the Baseball video any and all files related to it go into that particular Baseball folder, including the captured video clips, any titles I make with Xara3D, any backgrounds I make with Digital Juice, any sound clips I might rip from CDs. (Of course you could also make sub-folders for these if you like.) When I finally render my project to a DVD-compliant MPEG-2 that also goes in the folder. When I burn to DVD Folders I choose to burn to the Baseball folder and the Video_TS folder is automatically placed there. When I make my disc label and case insert I save the files to the Baseball folder.
I use Nero to burn instead of VS because many times I am burning multiple copies, sometimes not all at once. If I used VS I would have to go thru the render process all over again. When I use Nero I simply navigate to the Baseball folder and open the Video_TS folder and choose the files. They are already rendered so all that takes place is the actual burning.
I do it this way for housekeeping reasons: If I need to go back and re-edit something everything is in one place, and then when I am finally done I can simply delete the folder if I wish to do so. (Although I usually don't. I do delete all the individual files but keep the final rendered MPEG-2 and the burned project in the project folder.)
Again, this is personal preference and I'm sure you will get other opinions on what is "optimal".

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:41 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Ken
I use a similar approach as Jeff describes as far as the folder usage goes.
I generally use Video Studio to burn the DVD.
I do not create TS folders but prefer the ISO approach.
As we say, its just personal preference.
Knowing where your files are (good house-keeping) not only helps with the editing process but is essential when it comes to deleting unwanted files/old projects.
When you capture your Rhine Cruise footage, you should create a new folder calling it Rhine Cruise, designate it as the Capture Folder/Working folder.
All the captured video will be stored there.
In addition my Projects *VSP¡¦s are saved under the same folder, sometimes I create sub folders for additional files.
Like Jeff I save every file used in the project within the same folder.
My rendered files are usually saved in a sub-folder called ¡¥Completed Mpegs/Avi¡¦s¡¦
So yes you can create a folder called ¡§Cruise¡¨ but no quotes Cruise
And the files can be called whatever you like, Day 1 Day2 Rhine Cruise.
The question is do you need to rename the files when the folder identifies them as being the ¡§Cruise¡¨
But be aware that if you have started a project and you subsequently re-name or move the files or folders Video Studio will request a Re-Link.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:58 pm
by Ken Berry
I think there may be a degree of confusion here. IIRC Ken (Veal, not me!) has referred in past threads to his Video_TS folder. However, again IIRC, it is not a DVD Folder as everyone else (?) knows it. For whatever reason, Ken seems to have called his general folder where he stores video clips etc 'Video_TS'. In other words, it does not contain a DVD structure of .vob, .bup and .inf files ready to burn to disc; just .avi, .mpg, .wav etc. But it would be useful if Ken confirmed this.
FWIW, I also have a similar workflow to both Black Lab and Trevor, though like Black Lab, my own personal preference is to create a Video_TS DVD folder as the end process in VS, and burn that to disc using Nero as well. (In any case, of course, you can't burn a Video_TS folder to disc using VS...)