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VIDEOSTUDIO X2 - MENU video background - 30 SEC LIMIT

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:57 pm
by goldy3003
Hi!
I have(and think many other users) problem with menu duration of max 30 sec of video motion background, is there any way to make video motion background longer to play than 30 sec...like 60 sec max...

p.s. video studio x2 is good software(olso trying dvd moviefactory 7 with same limitation of menu duration...).. but similar older software like dvd workshop where is no limitations for menu background durations...and any other stuff..please help with this...


goldy :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:37 pm
by Black Lab
Thirty seconds is the max. I really don't know why anyone would want to stare at a menu for more than 10 seconds, let alone a minute or more. :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:28 pm
by sjj1805
If you really want someone to listen to your music/watch your background video for that length of time you need to create either a "first play video" or else include it as a separate video clip - perhaps one that can be selected from a menu.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:41 pm
by Ken Berry
I agree that with home made movies especially, there should really be no need for a menu that lasts longer than 30 seconds. I mean, how long in reality does it take to see the main screen of a menu, possibly flick to a second menu screen, choose what you want to see and click Play?

Apart from that, I might just add a comment about DVD Workshop. There is little point in comparing Video Studio or Movie Factory to DVD Workshop. VS and MF are both consumer level programs, while Workshop was more directed at the professional end of the market and cost several hundred dollars more than either VS or MF. It could thus do many more things in the authoring stage than either of the consumer level programs.

And unfortunately, Corel never supported continuation of Workshop, so it was limited to standard definition, and has now been phased out and will not, sadly, be replaced. :cry:

YEAH ! but whay limitation...

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:01 pm
by goldy3003
Black Lab wrote:Thirty seconds is the max. I really don't know why anyone would want to stare at a menu for more than 10 seconds, let alone a minute or more. :roll:
with 30 sec max.. there is no creativity freedom..., so i am looking replacement for workshop, and if users need to have custom created movie with audio 40 sec it can be played all 40 sec.. right..? only 30 sec... and that is not good...

so what the purpose of this limitation, please, find some solution for that...

some custom registry solution or something...

let me know if exist...some different corel porgram for dvd_bluray authoring similar like workshop.. :(

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:09 pm
by goldy3003
sjj1805 wrote:If you really want someone to listen to your music/watch your background video for that length of time you need to create either a "first play video" or else include it as a separate video clip - perhaps one that can be selected from a menu.
looping audio of 10 sec if annoying for ears.. you know...but litle custom made music_video clip.. is match better... so 30 sec and up to 1 min is ok for me...and some good song for background...

i only whant from you guys,(if will be possible) to remove or estimate duration menu for motion background to 60 sec...that will be big improvment...in program...

thanks for now...

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:28 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Hi goldy

First of all, non of the forum members are employed by Corel and have no way to alter the software.

All users of this forum are like you, just forum members that help each other out.
So us guys here can¡¦t change anything.

I agree that the menu limitations are a little poor at 30 seconds. The menu will display until a title/chapter is selected. The background video/sounds repeating until that point can be very annoying.

As suggested using a First Play will allow you to run a longer video, but does not alter the menu limitations.

This has been raised many times and maybe Corel should take note for future versions.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:00 pm
by Ken Berry
Of course, the longer the menu, then the less space there will be for the video you will be able to burn to the disc. I suspect that may be one of the (main?) reasons the 30 seconds was inserted in the first place.

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:00 am
by goldy3003
trevor andrew wrote:Hi goldy

First of all, non of the forum members are employed by Corel and have no way to alter the software.

All users of this forum are like you, just forum members that help each other out.
So us guys here can¡¦t change anything.

I agree that the menu limitations are a little poor at 30 seconds. The menu will display until a title/chapter is selected. The background video/sounds repeating until that point can be very annoying.

As suggested using a First Play will allow you to run a longer video, but does not alter the menu limitations.

This has been raised many times and maybe Corel should take note for future versions.
thanks trevor...

here is the sample story...of my simple advanced dvd menu... i create custom video with sound, and put in background motion menu...on the main menu i create all chapters..no more then 5-6... an that it is...no another menu with motion background for chapters only... just one main menu for all and litle bit longer than 30 sec...and everything is ok...and looking good...no serching for chapter on other menues.. and other stuf..all is view-ble on one page.....what you see is what you get...

please tell me if that is not simple and good solution...
so for me is better:
1 menu longer ( about 60 sec )with motion background video and music then,

not good...
2 menu (main and chapter menu) and 30 sec each...
that is my story... thanks


also all other people is right about their thinking and menu creation...but for me is right way to have more freedom... ;-)

goldy
:D

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:32 am
by lancecarr
The DVD standard places a 1gig limit specifically on Motion menus.
The limitation from within VS is how that 1gig of space is managed as you have seen.

VS is designed primarily for the home user and as such is a "jack of all trades and master of none!"

It's DVD authoring module has been most likely designed to allow the home user to put together a DVD with the least amount of user knowledge required yet still comply with the 1gig DVD standard... 30 sec motion menus.

Essentially what you are looking for is greater control and flexibility of your 1gig allocation and as you have noted and Ken has noted specialist DVD authoring software allows that.

Unfortunately there is no "one size fits all perfectly" consumer level video editing software program.

I am sure you could find another software product in the same price range that does allow it but I am also certain that very soon, in another area of your video production you will find that one's Achilles heel as well.

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:38 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi goldy3003

Try using Nero to burn your DVD.

I have just done a quick test and it appears that you can increase the background playback time.

I managed 100 seconds on my test.
I didn¡¦t actually burned a disc, just used the preview to view the results.

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:34 am
by sjj1805
goldy3003 wrote:........
looping audio of 10 sec if annoying for ears.. you know...but litle custom made music_video clip.. is match better... so 30 sec and up to 1 min is ok for me...and some good song for background....
If its just longer music duration you want then use a non motion thumbnail menu - or alternatively a text only menu. The 30 second duration limit doesn't apply to those menus that do not have "moving parts."