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selecting clips behavior

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:23 pm
by johnrule
VS Pro X2 (12.0.98.1)

I am still new to VS 12 obviously, and slowly getting used to some of the differences and idiosyncrasies. This one has me baffled...I can't find a setting to change the default behavior when a clip is selected. Selecting clips always resets the track cursor to the beginning of the clip you just selected. This is very bad when you are zoomed in, and very bad when you are using the cursor location as a reference.

Is there any way to change this behavior?

Thank you,
John

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:32 pm
by Ron P.
Bad behavior-yes, correctable-no.. :( One thing that I've been doing is changing to the Cue Point and inserting a cue point where I want to cut, or insert an overlay. This can be done by pressing the [F5] key. Now I have a reference point to go back to when VS jumps back to the start of a clip..

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:36 pm
by johnrule
Sorry, I don't mean to make it sound so bad...VS 12 a great application for the money, and they may fix this in a future update.

Thanks for your work-around!

JR

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:51 pm
by Black Lab
and they may fix this in a future update.
Don't hold your breath. :?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:42 pm
by Ron P.
johnrule wrote:Sorry, I don't mean to make it sound so bad...VS 12 a great application for the money, and they may fix this in a future update.

Thanks for your work-around!

JR
No need to be sorry, it's not your fault that Corel fails to fix things like this..;)

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:42 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Hi

If you position the Track Curser in Project Playback mode.
When you select the clip related to this curser, the clip will stay in position.

So select the curser position first then select the clip.
Use the controls below the preview screen to navigate the timeline clips. (Home and End buttons)

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:19 pm
by Clevo
trevor andrew wrote:Hi

If you position the Track Curser in Project Playback mode.
When you select the clip related to this curser, the clip will stay in position.

So select the curser position first then select the clip.
Use the controls below the preview screen to navigate the timeline clips. (Home and End buttons)
This is what I do...

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:24 am
by mitchell65
If you position the Track Curser in Project Playback mode.
When you select the clip related to this curser, the clip will stay in position.
There must be a slight difference in my set up as if I set Project Plyback and set the Track Curser to a point in the first clip, then select a clip in the library the playback mode automatically sets to clip mode and the Curser goes to the start of the new clip when it is dragged to the timeline. I use version VS 12.0.98.1. Pro

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:13 am
by jbarchuk
HiHi!

[quote="mitchell65"][quote]If you position the Track Curser in Project Playback mode.
When you select the clip related to this curser, the clip will stay in position.
[/quote]
There must be a slight difference in my set up as if I set Project Plyback and set the Track Curser to a point in the first clip, then select a clip in the library the playback mode automatically sets to clip mode and the Curser goes to the start of the new clip when it is dragged to the timeline. I use version VS 12.0.98.1. Pro[/quote]

This is a software design vs user workflow issue.

VS interprets "set the Track Curser to a point in the first clip" as "OK now I am doing this, and I can keep track of it."

VS interprets "select a clip in the library the playback mode automatically sets to clip mode and the Curser goes to the start of the new clip when it is dragged to the timeline" as "OK now I'm doing this, forget the last thing I was doing, I can keep track of only so many things at a time."

Obviously I don't know all the gutsy details of how VS is designed, but I do know that 'keeping track of many layers/levels of operation at the same time' is verrrrry difficult. Especially when -adding- this kind of feature to the design structure of an -existing- product. Even if they did choose to design some sort of 'multiple layers of user status management' there'd still have to be some sort of limit to the number of things it could remember.

OTOH if I were Corel I'd have this idea near the top of the 'next version new features' list.

Yeah I do find it annoying too but at the moment that's what we've got.

Have a :) day!

Jim

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:30 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi

Sorry for any confusion, I didn¡¦t think it was an issue regarding the library clips.

I was referring to navigating the timeline.

Videoman referred to Cue points, again the timeline, a good point though.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:34 am
by mitchell65
I really should have added that my post was purely for info. I find the best way to mark a point in the timeline is to use a cue point. Then it is there throughout the editing process. If you use the curser as a marker then you must deal with that point, insert a transition, cut the clip etc, before moving on to anything else!

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:50 pm
by mitchell65
Trevor wrote:If you position the Track Curser in Project Playback mode.
When you select the clip related to this curser, the clip will stay in position
Have just read Trevors post again. I think johnrule meant when you select a different clip in the library, not the clip where the curser is! The curser does indeed stay in position if you just want to select that clip!