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Today I installed retail Windows 7 Professional 64 bit as a clean installation, replacing Vista 64. Next, I plan to re-install Video Studio 11.5 and the upgrade to X2 Pro. With Windows 7 Pro there is a virtual "XP Mode" for compatibility with programs that don't work properly under Win 7. Before I re-install VS in Win 7, I have a question:

Those of you who have been using the Win 7 RC and are having problems with the buttons not aligning properly in the VS burning module (or any other compatibility problems), if you have the Professional version of Windows 7 with the XP mode, did you install VS directly into Win 7, or did you install it under the virtual XP mode?
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I for one installed directly -- I didn't know about the virtual mode! :oops: :roll:
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Ken Berry wrote:I for one installed directly -- I didn't know about the virtual mode! :oops: :roll:
It works with the Professional and Ultimate versions of Win 7. It includes a license for XP - but as I understand it, the virtual XP is 32 bit, even if you install the 64 bit version of Windows 7.

You have to download the XP Mode components and install them separately; they don't come with the Win 7 installation disks. I am not sure how well it works and what limitations it might have compared to an actual XP system.
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Windows 7 as most if not everyone is aware - like Vista comes in various flavours. Two of these flavours are aimed at the business market whilst the rest are aimed at the domestic market.

"XP Mode" is virtualization but differs from previous forms of virtualization.
The Windows 7 virtual PC mode requires that your processor is capable of hardware virtualization - previously this was not necessary and you could rely upon software virtualization.

XP Mode only exists in the two business editions of Windows 7 and not in the domestic user versions. The new virtualization mode enables you to boot your computer directly into Virtual PC. In addition the interface between the host operating system and the guest operating system appears to be seamless, rather than having to start up Virtual PC - which effectively takes over your computer and then starting the XP operating system, Windows 7 recognises that a program needs to be run in XP mode and so does so - but to the end user it will appear as though they are still using Windows 7.

VideoStudio does not require XP mode. XP mode is only intended for older programs that will not run on Windows 7 - such as MediaStudio, DVD Workshop, Cool 3D Production Studio etc.

The purpose of the XP mode was to entice large business organisations to move over to Windows 7 without losing any existing XP software that would not otherwise run on Windows 7. This was in fact one of the major drawbacks of Vista - backwards compatibility.

A virtual XP computer is not as powerful as a computer that has had XP installed in the more conventional fashion. It does not use "Your Graphics Card / Sound Card" etc. but utilises a pseudo Graphics card / sound card.
The reason it uses these emulated items of hardware is to ensure that XP will run on your computer even though your real video card / sound card etc do not have the necessary drivers or are for any other reason incompatible with XP.

Virtual computers work well but in view of the low specification of the emulated hardware would not work that well with applications that are very demanding of the computer - such as video editing software.
Emulation is more at home with things like spreadsheets, word documents and so on. Virtual computers are also ideal for trying out new software before you install it on your "Real Operating System" so that you can see what it does and if there are any bad side effects induced by installing it - such as bugs, viruses etc.

Previous versions of Virtual PC restricted the virtual machine to a meagre 8MB of RAM - but there is a tweak to the ini files for the virtual machine that let you increase this to 16MB - still meagre. On the other hand Virtual Box allows you to go up to 128 MB RAM - again meagre by today's standards. Sadly none of my computers support hardware virtualization and so I have not pursued XP mode on Windows 7 and so do not know if Microsoft have made any improvements to the amount of RAM that can be "given" to a virtual machine.
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So does it work on 64 bit edition besides the create disk glitch? I was planning on upgrading from Vista 32bit to W7 64bit. I have a quadcore system.

Let me know, I was almost on my way to pick it up.

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Dabitz wrote:So does it work on 64 bit edition besides the create disk glitch? I was planning on upgrading from Vista 32bit to W7 64bit. I have a quadcore system.

Let me know, I was almost on my way to pick it up.

Thanks
It works on W7 64-bit. Everything works perfectly, only the create disk application has a fault. The keyboard shortcuts bypass the problem.
Win 7 installs 32-bit programs in 32-bit mode. You will find all 32-bit programs in the folder Local Disk (C)\Program Files (x86). You can install VS directly without using compatibility mode.
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Another confirmation of this issue with VS12/X2 on Window 7. I'm using Ultimate 64 and get the problem with the missing icons in the burner window...
It also seems to be re-rendering the DVD file again despite my setting 'Do not convert compliant mpgs' on the ALt-J menu. Source files are all AVCHD. Paid upgrade from VS11.5 was downloaded 2 days ago.
The AVHCD transition problem remains visible.
Corel's reply to Heesenproductions implying that there is no problem is incorrect.
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Post by manicx »

Here are some images if you want to point this topic to corel:

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And a big one (full screen together with system info that shows the OS) that will mess forum so I give only the link:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/ ... tudio3.jpg
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manicx
That is a screen shot of a SmartScene Menu, and the problem you are having with it is?
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Steve,
I think he is showing the problem with the buttons, lower left..
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There still isn't a problem!

Those are the buttons that let you go from menu page 1 to menu page two and back again. He only has one video which happily fits on one menu screen and so those buttons are redundant - therefore greyed out.
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Hi, I have not visit this forum for quite a while since I was using the softeware without any problem. Now I have Win 7 and also the same issue. The above screen shows that the button for video/audio adjusting is missing. You can not adjust bit rate or pcm or dolby digital any more. It means you can not change the data size on this screen.
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By the way, the data size of video footage I am using is larger than the disc. I still can not see the round button beside the preferences button to adjust the bit rate.
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Post by alpine »

sjj1805 wrote:There still isn't a problem!

Those are the buttons that let you go from menu page 1 to menu page two and back again.
NO.
He is looking, like the rest of us, for the NEXT button which should appear, to allow progression to the play and then burning screen. Alt-N works in these circumstances, just as on the burning screen, Alt-J will bring up the options, since they too are missing. But clearly a new user of the product, unless they use this forum, would not be able to get any further.
It appears that Ulead have never actually tested this product themselves with Win7. No wonder they still haven't fixed the AVCHD transitions issue.
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Hi, I have just found your forum after getting no answers from Corel tech support regarding this issue. I have used VS since version 6 and this is the first time I have had need to contact tech support. I have been running Windows 7 for a few months using the RC. On finding that I could not burn movies to disc I contacted support to be told that Win7 was not supported as yet and suggested I try CDS 2010, which I did but found somewhat disappointing as a video editor. I now see on the release of Win7 VS is listed as being compatible, however still not being able to burn a disc seems to point to the contrary being the case. I have again contacted tech support and have been informed that they will be posting information regarding Win7 compatibility in the coming weeks. I then found your forum and the work round for the problem, I have since informed Corel of this thread but have received no response back as evidently on not hearing from me for 72 hours it has been assumed my problem has been solved.
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