What to do after getting a "Failed to burn" messag

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:35 pm

I wrote of this problem in another post, but felt I needed to ask under a new heading since it's a different question.
Using VS Prox2, video from Handycam mini-DVD, project is 45 minutes long.

Project properties:
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720x480, 29.97 fps
Upper field first
DVD-NTSC, 16:9
Video data rate Variable (Mac 9100 kps)
Audio data rate 448 Kbps

Now, I noticed after rendering that some of the properties had changed, from 16:9 to 4:3, and from upper field first to lower field first. For the burn, I changed them back to the original properties. The first one burned with no problems whatever, producing a very good quality DVD. The only problem was that I had tried to create menu/chapters and this didn't turn out, so I decided to burn a second time and skip the "create menu" part. I started again, inserting my VS file as before and using the 16:9 and upper field first settings.
This second attempt gave me a "failed to burn" message at the end of the 1 1/2 hours. Now I don't know what to do. Will I lose quality if I continue to try?
I had clicked on the "create disc image" on both attempts, since I will need multiple copies of the DVD.
Just when I think I'm getting the hange of this, I fail miserably! Please help.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:59 pm

Ok, when you go to the Share>Create Disc stage you will see a cogwheel icon in the lower left. Click on that to open up the burn properties. What are they?

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:01 pm

Hi flahagan

Different question same answers.

Your project properties should match your captured files.
Please view the properties of your video file (right click a video file and select properties) and compare them to the project properties.
They should be the same.

When you have completed the editing you have to created a new video file.
You need to use Share Create Video File -- Same As First Video Clip.
Using Same as Project Settings should be the same.

Look at the Properties in the create video file window, are they correct
OK This will create a new Video file.

Start a new project.
I would then change the project properties to match the video file, then Share Create Disc.

When you finally hit the Burn option VS will render the menu, Notice the progress bar first showing Create Menu.
If you see Create Title, then your video file is being rendered, If this happen then your settings are incorrect.

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:35 pm

OK,

All of my captured video clips for editing were 16:9, upper field first.

After editing, I created a new file using Share-Create-Video File using "same as project settings"

In the video library, my new video file still has 16:9 and upper field first

On the "burn" page, where it says "add media", I clicked on VSP and added my new video file. When it's finished loading and the clip is showing near the bottom of the page, I right-clicked on the clip and it shows the properties as 4:3 and lower field first. The cogwheel also lists the project properties as 4:3 and lower field first.

This is what confused me before, and I admit I never checked the inserted VSP properties again on the burn page, so I changed the properties using the cogwheel icon to 16:9 and upper field first.

So I should try again using my same VSP file only this time don't change the properties? I don't understand why they changed during rendering.

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:39 pm

Forgot to add, why would my first DVD burn when I had changed the properties but the second one didn't? The only thing I did differently the second time was omit the "Create Menu" option.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:41 pm

If you are creating a video file at the end of the editing stage, then that is what you should be inserting into your burning timeline, NOT the VSP.

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:43 pm

Trevor,
I did notice during my first burn (which took) that it was saying "Creating Title" for a VERY long time, but I still got a DVD from it. I sure hope I haven't done anything to lessen the video quality of my project.

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:03 pm

Sorry to keep posting, but I keep trying things and thought the additional info might help.

Trevor, I found your link to your excellent guide for burning to DVD and tried your step-by-step instructions for starting a new project.

I dragged the mpeg2 file to the timeline, deleted it and saved it. With empty timeline I checked the project properties and they were still 16:9, upper field first. Can't understand why and when it gets changed to 4:3 and lower field first.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:36 pm

Hi

With this empty project, that has the same properties as your video file.
Do
Share create Disc¡XAdd Video File.
Add the file you created earlier when you Share Create video File--Same as First Clip.

Remember Add Video File NOT VSP

Continue to burn a DVD.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:37 pm

The cogwheel also lists the project properties as 4:3 and lower field first.

You have to change it to match the properties of your MPEG-2.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:26 pm

Well, actually you don't have to change anything IF you have produced, in the editing module, a DVD compatible mpeg-2 16:9 UFF, and then inserted that -- and not the VSP file -- in the burning timeline. BUT -- a big BUT -- you have to make sure the little box beside 'Do not convert compliant mpeg videos' is ticked. That way, the inserted mpeg-2 will not be rendered yet again and you can safely ignore whatever is written about burning properties in the big box above that...

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Thanks for all of your suggestions and help. After I last posted, I got back into the program and noticed that if I added the mpeg2 video as a video clip and not a VSP, the settings all matched up. So I tried burning one more time and it worked! Only thing is, the cues that I had placed during editing disappeared. I went ahead and burned 5 copies so I'd at least have SOMETHING.
I might try a redo and see if I can get those cues back, but at least I know I have something in the can if it doesn't work. I love learning by trial and error!
Kudos to you guys for taking the time to help me. It is most certainly appreciated.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:45 pm

Hi

The cues, I assume you mean for chapter points, have to be added in the burner module as Add Chapters.
These then create a separate sub-menu page

When you use this method of adding a video file(mpeg file) the cues are not saved. You have to create them again.

flahagan · Post by **flahagan** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:52 pm

Trevor,
By cue points, I mean the little yellow tabs that you place during editing that enable the viewer to tab forward to a section without having to use the fast forward method.
These actually worked on my first attempt, but that disc also has the wacky "chapter" page that doesn't work- looks like it might have been from a default setting. It's an orange-red background with pretty crazy music, and 5 chapter numbers that lead to nowhere. I love that I can just quickly forward to a scene further along in the video without hassle and just wish I could get that feature to work again.
As I recall, when I first inserted my video to the burn page on that first attempt, all of the cues were visible along the track below the preview screen. I haven't been able to duplicate that since.

boxy · Post by **boxy** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:57 am

I have had this message come up in the past but now I change the 'maximum' setting to '4x' and the disc will burn for me everytime.