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Editing video with two camera views

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:14 pm
by Doug2006
I would like to know about editing video that was shot using two cameras. I have a short clip of my sons playing music on stage. There were two cameras, so two angles and closeups. I did an experiment and took two clips out of the closeups and put them in the overlay track. It rendered beautifully and looks like a million. It fades into the closeups and out again.

But here is the problem if I take a clip from camera one and it is only ten seconds long, lets say a close up of a fiddle lick. I cannot get it positioned right in the overlay track. Once you cut that 10 second clip out it loses any time sequence and now you have to figure out where it goes. I cannot do it with out getting the person who played it involved to determine where does it really go. It can take 20 minutes to try and get it in sequence with the main video. There has to be a better way.

I thought about putting the main video in the number one track and the one I want the clips from in the overlay. Then I can align them just once, it is easier because I have more to work with. Then I was going to just cut out the parts I don't want from the video in the overlay and leave what I do want. But my scissors don't seem to work in the overlay. I tried reversing the tracks figuring I could cut out in the main track but every time I do that the video just zooms over to the left and wont leave a hole or gap.

We received a video the other day that was four bands and it must have had 300 of these fades to another camera. And it looks continuous there is no area where the movement of the fiddle bow is not perfect with what is being played. I can not imagine how long that would take. Doug

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:22 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Hi Doug

Not easy to explain

When you have cut a clip into pieces you still know where they came from, in relationship to the original file.
It still retains its time sequence.

Highlight one of the clips, a 10 second one.
Either in the library or timeline.
Look at the bar below the preview screen, this represents the full clip on the hard drive, the blue portion represents the 10 seconds.
You have a visual representation of where the 10 seconds has come from.
By viewing the digital clock you can see exactly how long, as well as the start point and end point in relationship to the original.(frame accurate)

Navigate the bar by clicking the Home and End buttons adjacent to the play button viewing the clock as you go.
Navigate the bar by inserting a time in the digital clock.
Navigate by dragging the Jog Slider
Navigate the bar, simply hit the play button.

Use the square brackets Mark In -----Mark Out to trim the ends of your clips.
Now you know where they should go, all you have to do is get them there in audio sync.

One option would be to scissors/cut the clips in the library. You would end up with multiple clips, some required some not.
Drag them all to the overlay track, position for audio sync, delete the unwanted clips.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:34 pm
by sjj1805

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:11 am
by Doug2006
Thanks so much for the help. I tried the cut the clips in the library and that worked and then I realized that I did have x2 or what ever is the latest version so I tried cutting the clips in the over lay track and that worked too. Thank you so much and I see there is a lot I have to learn yet.

One other thing which someday I will have to ask as a separate topic, is about my x2 version. I never use it because it does strange things to my normal video. I can do anything I want to video in VS10 but put the same clips in X2 and when they get rendered it always squishes them or distorts them. I asked about this before and no one could help then maybe someday. I think there is some extra codec on the computer that renders them into the wrong size. They seem to be trying to go to 16:9. On this two camera project I noticed that it would not mess up the other camera but mine was squished. Maybe some time when I have more time. In the mean time thank you so very much. Doug

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:19 pm
by Black Lab
They seem to be trying to go to 16:9.
When I render my clips I always use the Custom option. But, even though my project is set for 4:3 the Custom option always defaults to 16:9 and I have to manually change it.

I don't know what template you may be using to render, but you may want to double check that the aspect ratio is set for 4:3.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:50 pm
by Trevor Andrew
Doug2006 wrote: One other thing which someday I will have to ask as a separate topic, is I asked about this before and no one could help then maybe someday.
On this two camera project I noticed that it would not mess up the other camera but mine was squished. Doug
Hi Doug
Just waiting for a reply to continue your post here
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... ht=#173454

I was asking where the footage came from, that is how did you capture the video.
If it was analogue capture and the aspect ratio was set to the wrong type wrong then a distorted / squashed video frame could be the result.

and you say:---On this two camera project I noticed that it would not mess up the other camera but mine was squished---

I would suspect your camera, its recording or capture process.