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History of my saga.

Initial problem- when trying to burn project out of VS9 I kept getting the error "convert step got some problems 4101"

Keep in mind even though I did this project in VS9, it only contains pictures and MP3s, no actual video.

Per advice on ulead forum ¡V it was suggest that I save as AVI files out of ulead. Was successful, but I soon discovered that I couldn't burn AVI to a DVD disc. But I found that I could burn the AVI out of Ulead Movie Factory 6, but since the AVIs are broken up in to 6 sections, there¡¦s a 1 second pause between segments. Not a nice option. But may be my only final option if I can¡¦t figure this out.

Then I tried to save as Mpeg2 per further ulead forum advice - no matter where I tried to save this - I'm told that I have "insufficient memory" even though I have free space of 362 GB on "my book" drive (I have 1.99GB of RAM).

I tried to use some of the various converter free ware that converts AVI to MPEG2 format. I tried various freeware with no success.

More forum advice said, Instead of creating disc ¡V to try creating "DVD folders" rather than burning the project directly to DVD ¡V but after trying - still get the "convert step got some problems 4101" error.

Ken Barry let me know that since I¡¦m not doing any video I simply need to save as a MPEG2 which I¡¦ve tried numerous times and always get ¡§insufficient memory¡¨ error. I got that error with the mp3 and wav versions.

So at this point I have converted my original VSP/VS9 project to X2 (unwillingly as once I loaded it ¡V it morphed my previous VS9 versions). And have also converted all mp3 to 1 single wav file. Upon trying to burn directly to DVD ¡V it does it quite quickly (project is ~ 13 minutes long) and tells me project burned successfully ¡V but when I view it ¡V after about ½ through - it just stops and starts over again.

So it seems my main plight is to figure out why I¡¦m unable to convert to MPEG2 out of my system. If I can pull that off ¡V I may be home free.

Lab, and Ken Barry have been very helpful and here¡¦s their links of advice so far.
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?p=181313#181313

http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?p=181339#181339

Hopefully by the time I get home ¡V I¡¦ll have some help. K

Per advice on ulead forum - it was suggest that I save as AVI files out of ulead. Was successful, but I soon discovered that I couldn't burn AVI to a DVD disc. But I found that I could burn the AVI out of Ulead Movie Factory 6, but since the AVIs are broken up in to 6 sections, there's a 1 second pause between segments. Not a nice option.

Once you have DV/AVI* files, you should be able to splice these AVI files together (with Video Studio) and save-as DV/AVI, or MPEG-2, or directly make a DVD.

These are almost always "from" problems, rather than "to" problems. In other words, Video Studio is probably having trouble with one or more of your "photos" (JPEGs?). It could also be one of your MP3 files if you've gone back to MP3. We usually never know why Video Studio can't convert the files... The encoders almost always work... If you feed Video Studio files that it "likes", it can make an MPEG-2, or other format, or a make DVD! It's usually the decoders having trouble with a particular file or with a particular format variation.

Usually it's a matter of trial-and-error to find the particular file(s) that are causing trouble. i.e. Start with a small project and add a few files at a time, till you add one that causes Video Studio to choke... This can be a big pain if you have lots of files... Then you usually have to convert the problem files to a "better" format. Sometimes this can be difficult too, because you often have to find a 3rd-party porgram that can make the conversion.

The more compressed formats tend to cause the most trouble, and the least compressed formats tend to be the most trouble-free. This means that the best source formats are:

Video = DV/AVI
Photos/stills = BMP
Audio = WAV

Again, the encoders usually work (with these source formats), so you can use the output format of your choice.

- no matter where I tried to save this - I'm told that I have "insufficient memory"...

I never believe that message... I think that means Video Studio is confused! It usually means that Video Studio or one of the CODECS has crashed... Since Windows uses the hard drive for virtual RAM, you should never run out to memory. Of course, it's possible for a program to go into some sort of out-of-control loop where it starts eating-up memory, or something like that.



* You may already know this, but AVI is simply a "container" or "wrapper" format, and it can contain anything from DV to DivX. DV (13GB per hour) is the most trouble-free variation.

Well I'm now able to see the AVI files from X2 and have played the AVI segments and it looks good; however, I'm trying to see now if I can save my current project per your advice - I choose "custom" Microsoft AVI files (*.avi) but after a few minutes it states "unable to load library" should I choose the DV option (you'd mentioned DV/AVI?) and then which ratio? 4:3 or 16:9 - I'm getting closer...? yes...?

well upon finally finishing my project edit wise - now I discover that I can't save a sound file either. "insufficient memory" again for a stinking wav file - tried saving on both C hard drive and my "my book" external hard drive. VS9 was able to do that - but this X2 is failing beautifully.

Kenny,
Try reading through this tutorial/article it may help you along..

A Suggested Workflow has been developed to help guide you through the mine-field of video editing, as it pertains to Ulead's VideoStudio Programs. They can be viewed here:
Suggested WorkFlow for Video Creation

vidoman, thanks...I'll check that out - I'm assuming it takes you through from A to Z - my video project is to be viewed by ~75 people this Saturday. So I'm at "Z" right now - I'm wondering if I can now import my finished product out of X2 in to VS9. Knowing that I'll have to redo some of X2's transitions and titles - but will I be able to bring X2 in to VS9....? I think not if I remember a couple of threads. What if I dump X2 and then try to import the X2 in to VS9. Then I could try...? Remember that I was successful saving an AVI file out of VS9 - which I can see and import in to X2...I'm grasping at straws huh...? Today I'm home and will be frantically trying anything to pull this project off. Too many hours invested. Your help is greatly appreciated - thx K

In one of your other threads Trevor clearly stated "You cannot open a VSP in an older version of Video Studio." Forward compatibility OK but I don't know of any Windows program that is backward compatible.

Mitchell - or any others..? I've resigned myself to finally admit defeat on this particular battle front. I loaded up a huge amount of pix and mp3s and no matter how I try and dig my way out of this one - beyond starting over - I think I'm done. My one last nugget of an idea is this...and I suspect it's a faulty one - if I go ahead and purchase this X2 and then go to phone support and pay the extra bucks...chances are they aren't going to have any more ideas than that of the moderators for this site...correct? Or do they have the abitlity to tap in to your desktop for a deep dive to dissect and possibly remedy? thx K

Make a dv.avi file with either VS9 or X2

Use a thid party app such as nero/roxio to make your dvd. Or there is dvd flick, a very good and free app.

You need to author a dvd disc, at this stage the app will convert the dv.avi to an mpeg and wrap it up into the required vobs for you.

This should get this project sorted for viewing, then we can try to continue to find what is causing the problem.

One item is the fact that we keep saying mp3 is bad, yet you appear to continue to use mp3's as per your last post. For the furture I'd suggest never using mp3's in your video editing.

I can only go on my own experience. I completed at least four very small sample projects that had no value other than as a learning curve. I was under no pressure to complete by a deadline date and I took it very slowly only coming to this Forum after I had explored the software manual and previous posts on this Forum. When I felt reasonably confident I tackled my first "real" project. I needed some help but found that very quickly in the replies I had to my questions here on the Forum.
So to answer your question. IMHO you need to be at least an "Experienced" PC User and preferable at the top end of that category and possibly more importantly prepared to spend many many hours learning about video editing in general. I found it the most complex subject I had tackled in 15 years of computing experience. I don't know if Corel use the facility to take control of your PC but even if they did, I doubt they would find any problem with your copy of the software. I don't think they would just complete your project for you, there would be no point in that. I know it can be very frustrating but if I can learn it then anyone can, but to repeat myself it is a very big learning curve. When you begin to understand the principles you begin to realise just how much knowledge our admin and moderators have!

kennyray wrote:....... I'm told that I have "insufficient memory" even though I have free space of 362 GB on "my book" drive (I have 1.99GB of RAM). ........

Please click here --> so that we can then view how much memory you have installed in your system specifications.


Memory and Hard Drive space are two different things.
Think of a hard drive as a filing cabinet where you put things away and only get them out when you need them.

Memory is the amount of stuff you are able to juggle about in your head without having to write things down (make notes). The more memory a computer has the more things it is able to do without having to "stop and look at the reminder notes" and so it gets on with the job that much faster.

kennyray wrote:Mitchell - or any others..? I've resigned myself to finally admit defeat on this particular battle front. I loaded up a huge amount of pix and mp3s and no matter how I try and dig my way out of this one - beyond starting over - I think I'm done. My one last nugget of an idea is this...and I suspect it's a faulty one - if I go ahead and purchase this X2 and then go to phone support and pay the extra bucks...chances are they aren't going to have any more ideas than that of the moderators for this site...correct? Or do they have the abitlity to tap in to your desktop for a deep dive to dissect and possibly remedy? thx K

Try viewing these training videos
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I completed at least four very small sample projects that had no value other than as a learning curve. I was under no pressure to complete by a deadline date and I took it very slowly only coming to this Forum after I had explored the software manual and previous posts on this Forum. When I felt reasonably confident I tackled my first "real" project.

I always shake my head when I read that someone has problems with the VS that they just installed and need to have a project done in 2 days.

Your point is well taken Mr Black Lab - but remember I've been working on this project for 3 months via VS9. After finally figuring out that VS9 wasn't burning and exhausting all other avenues (at least in my tiny pointed head) I thought success might be had by venturing to X2.

When I give my disclaimer to the audience of why the rough draft version is sketchy, I will say -"never upgrade software in the middle of a project or especially towards the end." thx for your advice and help - at this point I'll be buying X2 and now after burrowing in and getting advice (much of it tough lovesque and deservedly so) -I'll nail this down as best as I can.

Sorry if you thought my comment was directed at you. I was merely affirming Mitchell65's point of view.

Hi Kenny

I¡¦ve just read through this post, I think I may have to read it again to get the grasp of what¡¦s going on.

Any how , a few things to look at.

You are having problems creating a video file or dvd using still images (Jpegs) and Audio (Mp3¡¦s) basically a Slide Show.

Audio Content.
Its has been mentioned that using Mp3 audio can cause problems for some users, I have no problems with these files provided I keep the bit rates below 192kbps.
Other than that I use Wav files. It may be best for you to use wav files.

Images.
Well , I use Jpegs for most of my work.
I have had problems when using Jpegs saved as ¡¥progressive¡¦
When you create a jpeg the image is compressed, an option for ¡¥progressive or ¡¥baseline¡¦ can be selected.
The ¡¥baseline¡¦ option gave no problems for me.

Kenny,
have you tried using the library files to create a slide show.
If by using the default images and default audio you create a successful video, then we should be able to assume that your problem lies with your projects content.

Please try to create a video/movie using the library content.
You may be best to use VS 9 as there may be more library clips compared to the trial X2.

Once you have completed the editing do :-
Share Create video File-----DV- Ntsc, this will create a Avi file

Then start a new project, insert the new Avi file to the timeline
Share Create Video File-----DVD-Ntsc this will create a compatible Mpeg 2 file.

Now Start a new project ¡V Share Create Disc-Add video file (add the Mpeg 2)

How far do you get with this process.