VideoStudio 9 - Can I import a VSP from #9 - newer Vers.

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VideoStudio 9 - Can I import a VSP from #9 - newer Vers.

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I've got VS9 and can't seem to get past the "convert to step got some problems" - I've read all the post and tried the fixes to no avail. My key question is...if I got either version 11 or XP (can someone tell me the difference?)...would I be able to import my project from VS9 in to say VS11 without any formating issues?
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Hi

Yes you should be able to open a VSP made with VS 9 in the later versions.
You could use the trial version to confirm this.
If you do, make a copy of the VSP¡¦s first to use in the new program.
That way the originals will be available for VS 9

You cannot open a VSP in an older version of Video Studio.

Saying that if you are having trouble with VS 9 then upgrading probably won¡¦t cure the problem, unless you need the advanced HD options of the newer versions. (the latest version is X2 )

So what problems are you having.???
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Hi Trevor - Wow - cool an actual answer!! Ok, this is my current history of attempted fixes.

Per advice on ulead forum - saved as AVI files out of ulead. Discovered that I couldn't burn AVI to a DVD disc.

Then I tried to save as Mpeg2 per ulead forum - no matter where I tried to save this - I'm told that I have "insufficient memory" even though I have free space of 362 GB on "my book" drive. I tried to use some of the various converter free ware that converts AVI to MPEG2 format. I tried GUI4FFMPEG freeware and after trying to encode had some wierd DOS error telling me my address was unrecognizeable "cmd.exe.".

Per some other forum advice - Instead of creating disc - i tried creating "DVD folders" per other advice rather than burning the project directly to DVD - and then still get the "convert step got some problems 4101" error.

I like the idea of doing the trial version of X2 or Version 11 - would you mind telling me what the next logical upgrade is after VS9?
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Then I tried to save as Mpeg2 per ulead forum - no matter where I tried to save this - I'm told that I have "insufficient memory" even though I have free space of 362 GB on "my book" drive. I tried to use some of the various converter free ware that converts AVI to MPEG2 format. I tried GUI4FFMPEG freeware and after trying to encode had some wierd DOS error telling me my address was unrecognizeable "cmd.exe.".

Per some other forum advice - Instead of creating disc - i tried creating "DVD folders" per other advice rather than burning the project directly to DVD - and then still get the "convert step got some problems 4101" error.
We need a lot more info. Please read the following thread and supply the requested info.
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?t=8959
would you mind telling me what the next logical upgrade is after VS9?
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Apart from endorsing Black Lab's request for further information (particularly with regard to what kind of AVI we are talking about; and how much RAM you have), I thought I must just clarify one of the things Trevor said:
You cannot open a VSP in an older version of Video Studio.
That is, of course, quite true. If you have a VS9 project file (.vsp) it won't open in VS8 or earlier versions. But VS has forward compatibility, and the .vsp should normally open in VS10 and later versions as Trevor suggested.

However, there is a way of getting at least a modicum of backwards compatibility. If you have X2, say, then when you save a project it would normally be saved as an X2 format .vsp, which cannot be opened in VS11 or earlier versions. But you can use the drop down menu in the Save Project As choice and choose to save it either as a VS 11 or VS10 project.

And just to clarify also about your upgrade path. While logically, the next upgrade after VS9 was VS10/10+, unless you find a computer or software store which has some very old stock, VS10, and for that matter VS11/11+ are no longer available. So the obvious upgrade path is nowadays VS9 > X2. :lol:
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Hey Ken - thx...I'm in an extra pickle - need to have this video (DVD) for a huge grad party for a relative by this Friday night. I guess I should try to give V12 upgrade on a trial basis to see if I can then burn directly to disc. I have a hunch I don't have enough RAM and don't know if I'd run in to my familiar "convert to step ..." error. I'm not on my home PC at the moment.

And what I've essentially done is had to convert my .VSP file to an AVI file- but it chopped it up in to 6 parts. MovieFactory 6 will burn these to disc but it apparently won't stitch them together which results in a ~1 second pause while it's joining the next AVI. :wink:
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But I am afraid that is why we need the extra information. We need to know what sort of AVI file you are talking about since there are literally dozens of types of video which use the extension .avi. The latter is simply a wrapper extension. AVIs can range from pure, uncompressed .avi which runs at around 65 GB (yes, gigabytes) per hour, through DV/AVI (13 GB/hour) to, at the other end, highly compressed and often difficult-to-edit mpeg-4 type files such as DivX and XVid.

We also need to know where the original video came from. If it came from a video camera, then which kind (make and model) since there is again a wide variety, from ones that film in DV/AVI, to those that film to mpeg-2 and mpeg-4 on mini DVDs and hard discs, and SD memory cards; not to mention high definition mpeg-2 and mpeg-4...

So give us that information. And also click on one of the AVI files within Video Studio please. And copy down ALL is Properties here. Then we will have a better idea of what we are talking about.

Also, you may have a hunch about not having enough RAM, but we are not mind readers here, and have no idea how much RAM you *do* have now! :roll: :lol:
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I only have 1.99 GB of RAM - I also just now went down the path of doing a trial version of X12....no thanks...unless it's not true about needing real player. I don't plan on doing any videos on my ipod or watch movies. I may have misstated some things. I don't have any "video" in my movie...it's all pix and mp3s and that's about it. Question - do I really need to download RealPlayer in order to make X2 work? Also I tried seeing what kind of AVI files they are and all it says is: Video Clip as the "type of file" - by the by - Ken - thx for your fast replies...I'm not sure what I'm going to do now - K
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do I really need to download RealPlayer in order to make X2 work?
No. I don't know where you got that impression.
I don't have any "video" in my movie...it's all pix and mp3s
Certain MP3 types can cause problems. Try converting them to WAV files and see if that helps.
Also I tried seeing what kind of AVI files they are
I thought you said you only had pictures? It would really, really be helpful if you would answer ALL the questions in the link I provided. Without that info all we can do is guess.
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Per advice on ulead forum - saved as AVI files out of ulead. Discovered that I couldn't burn AVI to a DVD disc.
That is a general suggestion which really only applies if you are dealing originally with video. Since we now know you are not -- only with a slideshow of still images and background mp3 music, then there is no reason first for you to convert the project to AVI.

As you have discovered, an AVI of whatever flavour (or any other video format, for that matter), needs to be converted to mpeg-2 in order to be burned to a standard definition DVD. That is what the international DVD standard requires.

So you have your completed slideshow project in the timeline (having first, perhaps, converted your mp3 to .wav as per Black Lab's suggestion). Then you should choose Share > Create Video File > DVD. If the project is not more than one hour long (and since it's a slideshow, I hope for the sake of your family and friends it is not!! :wink: :lol: ) then just accept that default. It will produce a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 of your project which will fit on a single layer DVD.

Note also that after you produce your new mpeg-2, you go to File > New Project. Don't worry about giving your new project a name. The objective is just to clear the timeline of your current project.

Once that is done, you select Share > Create Disc > DVD. The burning module will open. Use the Add Media button at the top to insert your new mpeg-2 in the burning timeline. Then go to the middle of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen. There is a little box beside the words 'Do not convert compliant mpeg files'. Make sure that box is ticked (it usually is by default). That way, your already compliant mpeg file will not be re-encoded. Then build your menus and burn.

A couple of other issues you raised, one of which has been answered by Black Lab: No, Real Audio does not have to be installed. Like you, I refuse to have Real products installed on any of my computers. It is required only if you use video or audio which uses the Real codecs, which I never do.

As for RAM, 2GB is more than enough for standard definition (and even high definition) editing, even with Vista. Admittedly, more can be useful, but is not obligatory. My main editing computer is a Quad 6600 running Vista Ultimate. It has 4 GB RAM, but in truth Vista 32 bit has trouble dealing with much over 3 GB. But I like the extra to boost up my GPU which only has 256 MB RAM built into it. However, I also have a Core 2 Duo running Vista Home Premium, and it has only 2 GB of RAM, which runs VS just fine. And XP requires less RAM than Vista.
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Ug. You probably read that a lot. The hours I've spent splicing mp3 songs and effects (timing wise) in to this project...converting them all to wav files will be daunting - but it's good to know. I may suffer with my stuttering AVI version. By the by - yeah - the free trial version for 30 days states you must load 3 different apps. See it here http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/ ... bview=tab6 - what they don't tell you is you'll have a 14 day trial of Real Player - then it costs $35.00 every 3 months!! funny...so you're saying that's not the case. Again - Ken and Lab - I really appreciate the effort in to your help - K
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Hi
Kennyray

You don¡¦t need Real Player to run VS. I use the program and its free, I mean free.

If you save a project (VSP) in X2 you will not be able to open it in VS 9.
Maybe someone can try that?
So if you intend opening VS 9 projects in X2 then make a copy first.

Audio
I found MP3 to be ok if using 192 bits or lower.

Video Studio
Make a copy of the entire timeline sounds
Share-- Create Sound file. Will make a Wav file saved to the working folder.
It will be a bit big.
Or one clip at a time in a new project.

To view the video properties. (works for standard files)
File ¡V Preferences¡XShow messages when inserting First clip........
Start a new project
Add one video file
A pop up box asks to match the project properties,
select details.
Copy and paste the info in the right hand panel to the forum.

To repeat the process, start a new project.

Other than that, right click any clip in timeline or library and select properties.
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kennyray wrote:what they don't tell you is you'll have a 14 day trial of Real Player - then it costs $35.00 every 3 months!! funny...so you're saying that's not the case.
I think you are getting mixed up with the Real Player that gives you live TV transmissions. You have that on trial then monthly!
The ordinary Real Player is completely free.
The following URL explains all!
http://uk.real.com/realplayer/
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