DVD Authoring - Chapter Menu

[david_lexicon]

At the first stage of DVD Authoring I have to add media. When I insert a video clip named 'Testing' as a MPEG (VSP rendered) the size is about 4.38Gb. If I remove the Testing mpeg and insert the same video clip but in VSP form, the file size almost doubles. Why?

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi David

What are the properties of your video file?
Is the VSP the one used to make/create the video file?

When you add a compatible video file to the burner module VS should create the disc without rendering /converting the file.

When you add a VSP to the burner module VS has to render/convert the project to create a video file. VS uses its default settings to do this. (Create Title)
I can only assume that the Video file has different properties to that of the default conversion.
So what are they?
What version of VS are you using?

[david_lexicon]

Hi David

What are the properties of your video file?
Is the VSP the one used to make/create the video file?

When you add a compatible video file to the burner module VS should create the disc without rendering /converting the file.

When you add a VSP to the burner module VS has to render/convert the project to create a video file. VS uses its default settings to do this. (Create Title)
I can only assume that the Video file has different properties to that of the default conversion.
So what are they?
What version of VS are you using?

Thank you for your reply.

I am using VS X2. First I had a VSP file (lets name it Alpha) and rendered it - lets say that the rendered file is named as Beta (an MPEG file). When I am in the Authoring stage and add media, if I insert Beta, the size of the final burnout is 4.7GB. If I remove Beta and insert Alpha instead the file size is 6.7GB. How that can be?

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi David

What settings/template did you use to convert the VSP (Alpha to Beta)
Right click on Beta in the library and select properties. What are they?

From the Burner Module click the Options Cogwheel (project settings)
These are the settings that will be used to convert the VSP.
Look at the ¡¥Mpeg properties for file conversion¡¦.

Compare these with the Beta properties.

[sjj1805]

Please view:
What is a project file?

If you rendered the VSP then you will have removed all of the material that you intended to cut out from the raw source and so the file will be smaller.
If you inserted the VSP then the computer is looking at the entire raw source material and also adding anything else you have included such as extra sound tracks, other videos used on the overlay tracks.

To make that simple to understand, let us pretend you have recorded a 2 hour show off the TV with adverts. That raw file is 2 hours long.

If you edited out the adverts then the show will probably now be 90 minutes long because you cut out 30 minutes worth of adverts!

[david_lexicon]

Hi David

What settings/template did you use to convert the VSP (Alpha to Beta)
Right click on Beta in the library and select properties. What are they?

From the Burner Module click the Options Cogwheel (project settings)
These are the settings that will be used to convert the VSP.
Look at the ¡¥Mpeg properties for file conversion¡¦.

Compare these with the Beta properties.

The settings from Alpha to Beta is per following image:

[david_lexicon]

Hi David

What are the properties of your video file?
Is the VSP the one used to make/create the video file?

When you add a compatible video file to the burner module VS should create the disc without rendering /converting the file.

When you add a VSP to the burner module VS has to render/convert the project to create a video file. VS uses its default settings to do this. (Create Title)
I can only assume that the Video file has different properties to that of the default conversion.
So what are they?
What version of VS are you using?

Hi Trevor: Please note the file sizes:





The MPEG file properties are as follows:

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi David

The last image shows the project properties as being AVI, even so its a VSP, a project file.

The burner module/VS is gonna render this to the settings contained under the ¡¥Options Cogwheel¡¦
Please click the icon to the lower left, adjacent to the 4:3 icon.

The properties shown here will be used to render the project to Mpeg. reduce the bit rate to see what happens.

OK
You have already manually run this render by converting Alpha to Beta in the edit timeline.
Alpha being the project, Beta being the resultant Mpeg file.

The bit rate controls the size of the mpeg file.
6000kbps will allow for 90 minutes of video to a dvd (approx 4 GB)
Notice the size of the mpeg beta.

The settings under the ¡¥options cogwheel¡¦ are probably over 6000kbps producing a file greater than 4 GB.

As you have created the mpeg (Beta) you do not need to add the project Alpha. Beta is your video file.

Please note you are on the limit as to fitting this movie to DVD. Especially when you take into account the Logo2 file and the menu structure.

[david_lexicon]

Thanks for your reply.

Another note I would like to add is that when I add the Alpha file, in 'ADD MEDIA' the chapters are intact. When I insert the BETA file, the chapters markings of the Alpha file are lost and have to re-insert the chapters.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Chapter marks, That¡¦s correct.

When we burn a DVD we need a compatible Mpeg 2 file.
There are a few ways to achieve this.

1/ After completing the editing we Share Create Video File
Saving this file to a location on your hard drive, the chapter points will be lost.
Start a new project, Share Create Disc¡XADD Video File.

2 / Complete the editing----- Share Create Disc.
This places the project the VSP file in the burner module.
Here VS will render the project to a Mpeg file using the properties under the ¡¥options cogwheel¡¦
Chapter points ok.
The files being saved to temporary Burn and Create folders.
The resultant files being used to burn to DVD.
(select the lower left icon for location of the working folder.)
(Please note this is a different working folder to the one used in the edit timeline stage.)

[david_lexicon]

Hi

Chapter marks, That¡¦s correct.

When we burn a DVD we need a compatible Mpeg 2 file.
There are a few ways to achieve this.

1/ After completing the editing we Share Create Video File
Saving this file to a location on your hard drive, the chapter points will be lost.
Start a new project, Share Create Disc¡XADD Video File.

2 / Complete the editing----- Share Create Disc.
This places the project the VSP file in the burner module.
Here VS will render the project to a Mpeg file using the properties under the ¡¥options cogwheel¡¦
Chapter points ok.
The files being saved to temporary Burn and Create folders.
The resultant files being used to burn to DVD.
(select the lower left icon for location of the working folder.)
(Please note this is a different working folder to the one used in the edit timeline stage.)

There is a problem to play the Chapters:

[Ron P.]

Looks like you have some problems other than not being able to preview chapters, or preview your project, per your other post..

1. Please complete your System Information in your profile. Clicking on this button --> will take you to a short tutorial, explaining how to find and complete that information. This way it will always be available, and will save you from retyping it in the future.

2.Go HERE and download the latest MS Direct-X drivers. The most current is dated March 2009. For some reason it seems that updates from MS tend to break parts of VS, the burn module being the major one. DirectX is not part of the normal auto-updates for Windows. It must be manually downloaded and installed. They update this about every 4 months..

[david_lexicon]

Updated Direct X and VS working fine.

Thanks.