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VS 11+ XP Project 1.9 GB
Tried to insert a 20 sec file rendered to my Video _TS folder in to my
DVD before burn as a background video.I browsed to the file (which had audio of the same duration)under "select background image/video for this menu" and a message displaid saying that this file could not be inserted. I did this before selecting an audio track-which I then did as this was the one I hoped to insert as part of the video.Am I trying to insert the wrong type of video file here or what am I doing wrong?...............Ken

I can only guess that what you are trying to do is add a video "of your video" by creating a DVD on your hard drive and then grabbing hold of one of the VOB files to use as a background. Inserting it into the DVD Menu as a background and then rendering the DVD for a second time.

If I am correct in this supposition then what would happen is that when you recreate the DVD it will wipe clean any existing files created the first time round. You would therefore need to make a copy of the file(s) concerned placing them somewhere else on your hard drive before your recreate the DVD.

If I am reading your post correctly -- and I am by no means sure that I am! -- then if the short video in question is already in your Video_TS folder, it will have (or be part of a larger file with) a VOB extension.

VS 11+ cannot 'see' .vob files. They need to be converted (or just have their extension changed) to .mpg. This is quite apart from from Steve's suggestion, with which I would concur, that you would need to extract that file from the Video_TS folder and store it somewhere else on your computer.

Thanks for the replies each.
I will try and clarify things
I had not yet burned the DVD
The 20 sec file I wanted to add from my my Video_TS folder as a menu
background was a separate project rendered as normal to that folder.
I was trying to add this file whilst in the process of building the menu.As this is in the same format as any other video_TS_file I saw no reason
for it not to be accepted as a menu backgound.I had built this small
project with sound to match its duration.
So, are you saying this file should be in another folder so it can be used
as I wanted or am I missing something (as usual) here.

Sorry Ken, but you seem to be missing the central point. If the file in question is in a Video_TS file, it can ONLY be there as a.vob file. And if it is a .vob file, then VS cannot deal with it in that format. (VS10 for some reason was the one version that could.) So you extract the file somehow, change its extension to .mpg and save it to some other place on your hard drive. Then you can use it. Or else use the Import function and import it that way -- that will convert it from the vob to a usable mpeg-2.

Hi Ken

This is what I think you have done.
When you created the 20 second project, you rendered this project to a video file using Share Create Video File.
You saved the file to the TS folder (not the normal thing to do¡XI think this has caused a little confusion.)

Ok

A thumbnail of the video would have been placed in the library.
Can you find this thumbnail and play the video. Does it play?

Right click the thumbnail and select properties. What are they?

Do you still have the project for the 20 second video, if yes, render again to another location giving it a good/unique name.
It may be best to save the file to your working folder.

Does this new video file import to the menu without problems.

OK,
Thanks for being gentle with me.......think I may see a little light now.
But............
Trevor- you said that saving the video file to a TS folder is not the normal thing to do.Is this not what has been recommended on this forum for several years ie under "recommended proceedures in VS 8 and since?
I have always done this and added those files by opening the named file,
clicked open and the project then shows (via create disc)
Any way, the reason I could not import my file was, it seems ,that I did not
add the video file therefore it did not go into the library.
The prop of the file in the Ts folder was the same as the others-but it did not specify the file type.
Am I under another wrong tree here, I thought video files could only be rendered to a TS folder.I will have to use your method next time as I had to get the disc made to a time limit.
Ken, Now I am in the picture .........thanks to u all

I think we need to go back to basics here as I at least am now totally confused.

1. When I am doing a video project that I intend to burn to DVD, I always do the editing, convert the project to a DVD-compatible mpeg-2, then open the burning module, insert that (and any others that will fit on the disc), build my menu. And then I at least *always* "burn" to a Video_TS folder which I then later burn to DVD with Nero. But the Video_TS, as I think you realise, already has the structure of finished DVD, and contains a variety of .vob, .bup and .ifo files. The .vob files are really mpeg-2 files. And the Video_TS folder should already contain your menu already converted to .vob format. In other words, you only produce the Video_TS folder as the very last step, either in conjunction with, or in lieu of burning an actual DVD.

2. Once the Video_TS file is produced, I leave it completely alone until such time as I burn it to DVD. I *NEVER* subsequently add any file to the folder. It is already complete, and adding a file is not the same as including it in the DVD structure contained in the Video_TS folder.

3. So I just don't understand your work flow...

As Ken Berry has correctly described but put another way.

1. Import your raw video from your camcorder or other source.
2. Edit that video as required.
3. Render that video to a DVD compliant MPEG2 file using the [Share] Tab - Create video. At this point you save it somewhere convenient - not in a "TS" folder.
4. Start a new project so that you clear the timeline
5. Go to the [Share] Tab and select Create Disc.
6. Import the video from step 3.
7. Create your chapter points, DVD Menus etc.
8. Burn to a hard drive folder. When you do so, VideoStudio creates various VOB Files and other files inside a Video_TS folder.

Hi

Ken can you confirm that you can see the file extensions when you view your files on your pc. This refers to all files on your pc.

The VIDEO_TS folder holds several different type files, one called VTS_01_1.VOB (or a similar name.)

The question is do you see VTS_01_1.VOB with the extension .vob

Or do you see it as VTS_01_1 without the extension.

Not being able to see the file extension may cause some confusion in selecting the files.

Other types like images (jpegs)would view like:-
bridge2.jpg
or
bridge2

What do you see when viewing files on your pc.

This has been my workflow to create a DVD
1 capture
2 edit
3 create video file saved as mpeg in my Video _TS folder with _ inbetween the file name.
4 render that file via save in the video save options box,the named file then shows in the TS folder.
5 start a new project
6 nothing in time line, set everything to match.
7 Share- create DVD disc
8 add video files – open named file in TS folder- -project shows
9 add chapters-edit menu-match settings
10 Burn disc

This method has always worked for me.Is this not an acceptable way? I thought this was what always had been the recommended way, if not I have misunderstood all the advice given in this forum where I have learned almost everything I know about VS (and would be lost without).

Steve advised not to save to a TS folder but say eg the working folder and and then at his point 7 burn to a hard drive folder.Steves way obviously works but so does mine, so what is the advantage or otherwise of each method.I saved to a TS folder then burnt from there,Steve saved to a non TS folder and finally burned to a hard drive folder.

So, going back to my original question, am I correct in understanding that the reason I could not
use the 20 sec file rendered to the TS folder as a menu background was because it was there
(along with the main project file) and not in another folder as a eg vsp file?
Or what workflow should I use to add a previously made file as a menu background.(Must also mention this was not in the library or time line- should I have opened it to there)

When I right clicked on the file I wanted to use for the background in the TS folder to get its properties it showed a box that had 3 tabs –general,
sharing, and customise.. read only, containing 2 files andno folders.No file type was displaid.

Hi Ken

Your workflow look ok to me.

When you do Share Create Video File you select a save location for the rendered file.
This location/folder can be any where on your pc. Having any name.
I usually create a folder dedicated to each project, saving my work there.(a working folder)

For some reason you have adopted the Video_TS folder for this location.
In reality one folder is as good as another, but using a TS folder has confused me, but now I understand.
Ok
The 20 second video has been saved to your pc in the TS folder. What did you call this file?
There is no reason why this video cannot be used as the background to your menu.
Are you sure you are selecting the correct video file from this folder.

Try to insert the file as a background video, view the ¡¥open image file¡¦ folder in ¡¥Detail¡¦ view.
Look for a file that has a type ¡¥video¡¦
Do you understand the last sentence relating to ¡¥Detail view¡¦

my working folder is "Video Projects*
My Video_TS folder is where I render projects to
So .vsp s are in tne working folder and those projects are rendered and saved to my Video _TS folder.
I will return to try and get the small file as a background later but in the meantime does this give you any clues:-
It is named DVD_Menu in the Video _TS folder and would not open into a new project.On hovering on the folder named DVD_Menu the following info showed- DVD Menu.mpg DVD menu.upd.
Tried to open the file named DVD Menu in my working folder(Video Prpjects) and the following info showed- Unable to open file DVD Menu
.vsp File format mismatch [16803 1.2]
How do I get to use the detailed view ?

Where did you get the idea to save to a Video_TS folder from?
It has never been included in either of the two threads

Suggested work flow by SJJ1805 for Video Creation

The other thread by JCHunter was deleted by the author
Why Has The Recommended Procedure Been Deleted? but that thread did not include a suggestion to render to a Video_TS folder either.

Hence the confusion caused by your original post.
You can save the video created at step 3 of my earlier reply to anywhere convenient on your hard drive, it does not need to go into a folder named Video_TS.

At the next stage - creating a DVD, VideoStudio will create a Video_TS folder and also an Audio_TS folder. If these folders already exist it will over write any files that already exist in those folders.

Hi Ken

When you select the file for your menu background, I can only assume you are selecting the wrong file type, or the file is corrupt.

Viewing the folder in Detail View.

Open the Video_TS folder.
At the top of the folder is a small square icon containing coloured dots.
Float your mouse for a tool tip, shows as ¡¥Views¡¦.
Click this icon and select Details.
The folder will display the full details of its contents in columns. Name, Size, Type etc

The name column should show a file called DVD_Menu or DVD_Menu.mpg (what do you see?)
The ¡¥type¡¦ column should show your videos as ¡¥Mpeg Video¡¦

If you don¡¦t see this file (DVD_Menu) then maybe you have saved it to your working folder by mistake.
Have a look in the Video Projects folder, same again to view in ¡¥Detail¡¦
Ok

Your project files should show as ¡¥type¡¦ Ulead Video Studio Document this is a VSP file. (a Video Studio Project)
Your rendered Video Files should show as ¡¥type¡¦ Mpeg Video or Avi Video

UPD files are created by video studio, you do not need to use these files.
Vob, Bup, Ifo files are for burning to dvd as part of the TS folder structure. Trying to open these files may cause a mismatch in VS.

All the Best