VideoStudio 11.5 Plus 1080p support?

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Yeah, CUDA is what I was thinking, but nVidia have not produced PCIe video cards that are CUDA enabled.

I have found this newly released AGP card from ATI:

http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/product ... p?gpid=227

Dedicated unified video decoder (UVD) for H.264/AVC and VC-1 video formats
High definition (HD) playback of both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats
Hardware MPEG-1, MPEG-2, and DivX video decode acceleration

Who that be of any help?
Is H.264 AVCHD?
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That would only work for viewing/playback, not encoding. The FirecoderBlu however is an encoder. Not sure of the price, but anything from Grass Valley should read Gra$$ Valley...;)
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And yes, AVCHD uses the H.264 codec...
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Thanks for the info.

I've decided to purchase a D.V camcorder. I find there are just too many 'standards' with 1080.

Atleast with the older format I know its either PAL, NTSC and SECAM.

With HD its like 720i, 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Blu-Ray, HD DVD MPEG4 codec, AVCHD... Some standard.
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With a HDV camera, you get one standard for high definition, and it's easy to edit. In that regard, the standard is settled, and HDV is easy to edit on a wide range of computers.

Playback in high definition, whether HDV or AVCHD, does, however, require at some stage that you either

(1) burn to Blu-Ray (and have the necessary equipment for this); or

(2) burn an AVCHD hybrid disc using a standard DVD (excellent results, but you still need a Blu-Ray rated player); or

(3) (as I have also done) edit your HDV in that format and produce a final version. But then leave it on your computer. I have a Sony PlayStation 3, which is a rated Blu-Ray player (which can also play AVCHD hybrid discs). But its main feature for me is that it can be networked to your computer and connected via HDMI to a HDTV. That way, I can play my edited high definition in all its original glory direct from my computer, via the PS3, to my HDTV. Really wonderful.

And recently, I drove up to my home state to visit family, one of whom also had a PS3 and an even larger HDTV. So I took my video on an external hard disk drive and connected that to the PS3 via USB, and could thus show my family my 'masterpieces', again in high def glory! :lol: :wink:

Failing all that, output from a HDV camera is easily editable to become standard definition mpeg-2 for burning to a standard definition DVD whose quality is marginally better than from a standard definition camera. Indeed, you can even set the camera to download in standard definition DV format if you only intend to burn a standard definition DVD. And DV too is fairly foolproof... :wink:
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Ken Berry wrote:Coral -- you can, of course, burning high definition video onto a standard DVD using the AVCHD format. This makes it a 'hybrid disc' and it can only be played on a Blu-Ray player rated to play hybrid discs. You can use either HDV or AVCHD source video, and even make a menu for it in VS. But it is of course not a standard definition video DVD...
I had in mind standard DVD.
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Pixelation5 wrote:Thanks for the info.

I've decided to purchase a D.V camcorder. I find there are just too many 'standards' with 1080.

Atleast with the older format I know its either PAL, NTSC and SECAM.

With HD its like 720i, 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Blu-Ray, HD DVD MPEG4 codec, AVCHD... Some standard.
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Coral -- I realised that, but I gave that extra information for anyone who might have been looking at high definition, such as Pixelation5, which is what this thread is mostly about anyway.
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I like the quality of HD, but then again, what is the standard?

Look at HD in the past 5 years, first it was 720i, then 720p, then it went to 1080i, and now whe are being told 1080p. Australia even consider 480p as HD according to Wikipedia.

If you look at SD, it is either PAL, NTSC or SECAM. These standards have been used for almost 50 years. That's what you call a standard.

How long until 1080p is no longer a standard?

To me, being in Australia; the standard is still 576i/50Hz.
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Pixelation -- you are missing the point I am trying to make. I understand your frustration, but all those variants essentially apply to AVCHD/H.264 high definition. And I agree they are all over the shop... And it's not just the frame sizes you mention, but also the codecs.

However, the point I am trying to make is that HDV is always the same: here in Australia, you buy a HDV camera and you will always and only get 1440 x 1080, 25 Mbps, 25 fps, and mpeg layer 2 audio. That's it. That's HDV. That's its beauty. And better, it has been totally editable on P4 computers and their AMD equivalents for years.

It is really only the AVCHD flavour of high definition that is so demanding and causes 99% of the problems...

So don't get turned off totally on high definition because of a misunderstanding about chalk and cheese high definition formats.

And to put it more basically, if rhetorically, in answer to your comment about 576i being a standard, how much longer do you think *that* will be the case, when standard definition on Australian TV, for example, will be as dead as the dodo by 2012 or 2013, I think it is.
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I have done research and I understand allot better now.

Why is interlacing still used? If HD TV/LCD's/computers are progressive?

You say we will always get 1440 x 1080 25mbps 25FPS if we go out and get a new one... I would have to disagree. All new models are 1920 x 1080.

So, there are 6 'standards' of HD?

1280 x 720i
1280 x 720p
1440 x 1080i
1440 x 1080p
1920 x 1080i
1920 x 1080p

What was before AVCHD? AVCHD is just a codec right? Or a video format?
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Hmm, after more research I have decided to use H.D.V.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC

According to the HDV creators, 1920 x 1080p @ 30FPS is the best HDV.
If I was in charge, this would be the only HDV.

Now I just have to figure out a way of getting my P4 3.2Ghz/2GB RAM and VideoStudio 11.5 Plus to handle AVCHD editing and playing.

These people are still idiots. What's with so many choices of frame rates? 24/25? <<< I think the world should just stick with 30. Frame rates are a PAL/NTSC thing... This is the digital age. Cinema's should also go with 30. Actually, really, I think 100, but I have a high standard. I'm also a gamer and know the eye can pick up way above 65FPS.
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