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Mini DV tape to DVD, is this somehow different from HDD vid?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:46 pm
by Brianottawa
Hello again. My first usage of VSX2 was to take video files off my current HDD video camera, load them to the computer, then put them into VSX2 and creat a movie and burn to DVD. Sucess...somewhat. Still have not had 100% sucess in creating a reliable DVD that will play without skipping, so my confidence level in this technology is pretty much where I was 15 years ago when I was trying to create music CD's. Some CD's worked, most didn't and I would have to burn and toss several before I got one that worked. Same here...
Anyway, my latest question is I have now turned to my older mini DV tapes and started to copy them to my computer. My fisrt tape sucessfully copied to the PC, and I went about creating my VSP movie file in the time line. I closed down the file after I saved it. Then reopenedit and went to the Share tab, and clicked "Create Video File", selected the "Same as project setting", and clicked Save to begin the process of creating a vid file. This is where my problem began. A bar opens the says "Creating Video File...Press ESC to abort." and then it hangs....notthing happens. left this fo a while to see if it was just reading everything, but came back 30 minutes later and the bar was still hanging at about 2%, which is to say it was exactly at that point when I hit save...so nothing. I closed it down, restarted my computer....tried agaian....same thing...angain...same thing.
Is there some difference in creating video files between the video I downloaded from my HDD camera and the tape video that I am now using, that somehow impacts upon what I am doing? Some setting that I should be using that is different? Has anyone encountered this before?
The only difference that I can see is the aspect ratio 16:9 vs 4:3 and the tape is native 2 MPEG.
Here's another difference. My HDD files download as .MOD files on my PC hard drive. Then VSX2 creates the video file and makes the movie into an .mpg file ready to burn to DVD.
My tape files all downloaded to the PC hard drive as .mpg files already. The I used those .mpg files to put into my time line and created my .VSP movie, as I would have with the .MOD files. Could that be something of significance? If the original files are already .mpg?
Re: Mini DV tape to DVD, is this somehow different from HDD
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:12 pm
by Black Lab
Brianottawa wrote:Hello again. My first usage of VSX2 was to take video files off my current HDD video camera, load them to the computer, then put them into VSX2 and creat a movie and burn to DVD. Sucess...somewhat. Still have not had 100% sucess in creating a reliable DVD that will play without skipping, so my confidence level in this technology is pretty much where I was 15 years ago when I was trying to create music CD's. Some CD's worked, most didn't and I would have to burn and toss several before I got one that worked. Same here...
Anyway, my latest question is I have now turned to my older mini DV tapes and started to copy them to my computer. My fisrt tape sucessfully copied to the PC, and I went about creating my VSP movie file in the time line. I closed down the file after I saved it. Then reopenedit and went to the Share tab, and clicked "Create Video File", selected the "Same as project setting", and clicked Save to begin the process of creating a vid file. This is where my problem began. A bar opens the says "Creating Video File...Press ESC to abort." and then it hangs....notthing happens. left this fo a while to see if it was just reading everything, but came back 30 minutes later and the bar was still hanging at about 2%, which is to say it was exactly at that point when I hit save...so nothing. I closed it down, restarted my computer....tried agaian....same thing...angain...same thing.
Is there some difference in creating video files between the video I downloaded from my HDD camera and the tape video that I am now using, that somehow impacts upon what I am doing?
Yes. You say when you create the video file you select "same as project setting". What are the project properties, and what are the clip properties?
Some setting that I should be using that is different? Has anyone encountered this before?
The only difference that I can see is the aspect ratio 16:9 vs 4:3 and the tape is native 2 MPEG.
Here's another difference. My HDD files download as .MOD files on my PC hard drive. Then VSX2 creates the video file and makes the movie into an .mpg file ready to burn to DVD.
My tape files all downloaded to the PC hard drive as .mpg files already. The I used those .mpg files to put into my time line and created my .VSP movie, as I would have with the .MOD files. Could that be something of significance? If the original files are already .mpg?
How are you getting the clips from the mini-DV into your pc?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:07 pm
by Brianottawa
Hi "Black Lab" thanks for your reply. I checked the properties of the video files in my video folder on the PC, and the properties just tell me it is a Movie Clip; uvs090426-001.mpg file, Attribute: A.
When I have the same file in the VSX2 time line and click on properties, it tells me the following:
File Format: NTSC DVD
MPEG-2 Video, Lower Feild First
Attribute: 24 bits 720 x 480 4:3
Film rate: 29.970 frames / sec
Data rate: max 9000kbps
I connected the camera to the PC with a firewire connection and then I used the capture Video feature in VSX2 and recorded the tape, and had it create seprate clips at scene breaks. I imported the video with no issues.
And while we are at it...is there a way to close a project in VSX2 without shutting down the actual software application? All I seem to have is Open Project, and New Project...there is no close project option? When I exit, it shuts the whole application off....strange...
just noticed..
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:20 pm
by Brianottawa
I also just noticed that in the time line in my VSX2, the clips name all have the .mpg file extension, and when I went back to oipen my HDD VS movies, all the clips in the VS time line all were .MOD clips...so maybe I don't need to creat a Video file...maybe these ar already video files?
I just went to try to burn a disk, and it opened up the project in the viewing window...if I strat to creat menus, ect...do you think it will creat a DVD that I can play in the DVD player?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:38 pm
by Black Lab
I also just noticed that in the time line in my VSX2, the clips name all have the .mpg file extension, and when I went back to oipen my HDD VS movies, all the clips in the VS time line all were .MOD clips...so maybe I don't need to creat a Video file...maybe these ar already video files?
You have me confused because we are dealing with clips from 2 different sources.
Let me first state that since you are transferring your mini-DV clips via firewire you should be capturing them as DV-AVI, not MPEG-2. MPEG-2 is a lossy format. DV-AVI is lossless, so editing will not affect the quality. When editing is done you will then convert it to MPEG-2 for burning to DVD.
Since your HDD records in MPEG-2 there is no sense in converting to DV-AVI then back to MPEG-2. Just edit as is.
As far as closing a project the only way to do it is by choosing New Project.
DV
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:53 pm
by Brianottawa
Hi Jeff,
The VS capture or import video feature I thought just started recording the tape that was playing, I don't recall if I selected anything, but I'll have to try again to see.
The tape video definitely has been saved on my PC from the camera as an .mpg file, and shows up as .mpg when I am in the time line doing my editing.
I noticed that wehn I looked at the material from nother project, one that was from my current HDD vid camera, those files all were .MOD files.
So, what you are telling me is that with my current tape video project, I need to go back and try to capture that in DV-AVI because as it stands now, I can not use the .mpg files to creat a video? I have already pieced the entire movie together which is in .mpg format, but you think this would not transfer to DVD...is that right?
Oh, and another thing...the files from the HDD camer seem to be showing up not at MPEG files but .MOD files, at least that is what they say in the editing mode whwn I have them in the VS time line.