Creating Blu Ray from current projects

JackTheBear · Post by **JackTheBear** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:41 pm

I shut down X2 and reboot between projects - just to clean out the what ever - can't hurt - might help - how knows? I do know under the present set up I have now, I can't put together a single large project without X2 complaining........aka "Needs to close." I suspect I just don't have the "umph" to do huge HD Video files and a big string of 4 mg jpgs. The fact that I can trim the length of the project and complete it, leads me in the direction that the CPU does not have the capacity to process this much information before X2 throws in the towel. I will keep on truckin and let you know when I can crunch big files and what it took to do it. Meantime, Corel just might come out with an upgrade.
Cheers
JackTheBear

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:30 am

JacktheBear wrote:I suspect I just don't have the "umph"

Having looked at your PC Spec then most of us are in the same boat

JackTheBear · Post by **JackTheBear** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:07 pm

FYI
I know every one is concerned with the high price of BluRay blank media. I tried out the http://www.mediamegamall.com/. I purchased 25 - 25 g BD-r discs from them for about $70. So far, so good - I have used three of them in my quest to break into the BD world. Now I am not working for these folks and don't get a kickback.....but thought it might be helpful for those sitting on the fence and wanted to try BluRay, but didn't want to make $15 coasters. I am also using a Pioneer BDR-203
No problems as yet - So one could get into the BluRay coaster making business for under $300 US.

Question
I was thinking of trying Windows XP Pro 64 bit instead of the Vista 64 I have now, utilizing X2 - Does anyone have any comments on this? I am still getting "Corel needs to close" error messages and heard folks had good luck with the XP Pro 64

Thanks
JackTheBear

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:23 pm

So now I have re-rendered my projects with properties as the first clip. Then, after restarting VS, I have chosen the create disc option for Bluray. I have chosen the properties to match my video files and after creating the menu added the files for the disc. Then I insert a blang Bluray disc and choose 'burn' . I then go away and leave it to get on with the job. When I return VS has stopped working ,as it often does, and I have burnt a coaster.

I try again and this time get the message 'internal DVD error' and have another coaster.

Any ideas about what as gone wrong here? Bluray discs are too expensive to waste in this way. I thought I might burn an image to hard drive but this option is greyed out.

I can make normal DVDs and AVCHD without problem but my holiday film is four hours and needs to be on a couple of Blurays not DVDs.

I have a Pioneer Bluray burner and initially it burnt bluray OK.

Ray Morris

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:46 pm

From my point of view, the all-important question is whether, in the burning module, when you have inserted your newly rendered clips in the burning timeline, the 'do not convert compliant mpeg files' box is ticked in the second of the icons in the bottom left of the burning screen. That way you would not have to be worrying about choosing the properties to match your video files. It still strikes me that some conversion is going on during the burning process and that should not be happening.

That worry is reinforced when you get that mysterious error message 'internal DVD error'. Why 'DVD' when you don't have a DVD disc in the burner? It seems that you are seeing one thing, but the program thinks it is seeing something else...

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 am

Thank you Ken. I did have option not to convert complient files ticked. I selected NTSC properties to match my files otherwise it will try to convert them to PAL.
I shall be away on holiday now taking more video to edit so will not be trying again for a couple of weeks.
Ray Morris

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:53 pm

I am at home again for a few days. I am at a loss now as to what to do!
My Panasonic SD9 camera saves .mt2s video fils in NTSC format.
I put these into VS12 and edit in the normal way. I have used VS since version 5 so am very happy using it for editing.
I save the project to a file in the format of the first clip.
I restart VS and go to the create bluray disc option.
I select properties for NTSC to match the files and tick the 'do not convert compatable files box.
I make a Menu and go to the burn disc option.
After a while I get a window saying 'There is an internal error in the DVD engine' and a number 533-2147216492:0.
The Bluray disc turns out a coaster.
If I ask it to save to folders the same error appears.
The 'Create disc image 'option is always greyed out.
If I leave the properties as PAL upper field first it takes half a day to render and the flim is jumpy with parts breaking up.
How can a save the films to Bluray in the same super HD and smooth movement that I see when I play the camera direct into the HD TV?
Do I need to reinstall VS?
Shold I get another video editing program?
Thanks Ray Morris

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:54 am

I have just downloaded a program called 'Burnaware free' , it is a free program that will burn all kinds of discs. One of it's features is to make a BD image of a bluray disc. I tried thia with my files created in VS and it worked OK but it does not create a menu.

It would appear to me that VS 12 cannot create any discs using files saved with NTSC properties so in future I shall have to edit and save files with VS 12 but burn to bluray using another program.

Ray Morris

JackTheBear · Post by **JackTheBear** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:02 pm

Gave the Acer 5621 Q8200 8 gig Vista 64 to my wife. She was using a laptop - so this is a big improvement for her.
After a few "fun" days have got the new monster up and running. Windows XP Pro 64 bit OS -
Asus Rampage Formula MB - I must add here I had a little bios trouble of my own making and the techs at Asus (all 6 I talked to) we great. The call is on your "dime" but they answer the phone in just a few rings and know there stuff. I wouldn't even consider another board.
Intel Quad 2 9550 - 4 sticks of Crucial 1066 2 gig memory. Still have the 2 WD 640 hard drives and Pioneer BD burner. Had to get another DVD burner as the other one went with the Acer. Put all this in a Thermaltake X2 case (which is bigger than most cars) have 850 watt power supply. I guess that is about it. Only made a couple of small AVCHD and DVD discs - 15 mins each. But no problems as yet. Seems to work faster than the Vista machine. I burned a regular DVD disc from a stored file and it went so fast I thought it had crashed.
Have not tired BluRay as yet - Going on a short driving trip and will be doing some video. Will put X2 through its paces after we get back.
I hope Corel is working on Windows 7 as it sounds like it will be my next OS. I will get a new hard drive and do a fresh install if I decide to change the OS. Will depend on what all of you who do upgrade have to say and how Corel works out the kinks.
Cheers to all
JackTheBear

mitchell65 · Post by **mitchell65** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:12 pm

Now that's what I call a system

Still can't find a smilie for "jealous"

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:54 pm

How about "green" with envy? (Click on View More Emoticons)

Post by **Ron P.** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:04 pm

Intel Quad 2, is this 2 x Quad Cores? I wonder if that would be similar to a system a friend of mine had special built 3 yrs ago.. It was a Quad Dual Core (4 x Dual cores). Very, very pricey setup back then...

He could run Adobe CS (video editing, AE, and whatever else) working on HDV and it not break a sweat. Generally about 25% CPU...

JackTheBear · Post by **JackTheBear** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:07 pm

Wellllllllllllllll I hope this does the trick for now. It is not the most expensive or the newest, but it is what I could afford at this time. Thermaltake sent out an email offering some of its cases, power supplies and coolers for 1/2 price! Too good to pass up. A $250 case (I would never have bought) for $125 with free shipping - now you are talking.
The rest of the innards I got from Newegg. Got all over a period of a month to minimize the pain - ha
There is one strange thing about the set up is that neither the Samsung DVD nor the Pioneer BD-203 optical drive will let Windows XP 64 bit read the BD or AVCHD discs. I see others have the same complaint. I can read them in my 32 bit machine, so it isn't a big deal. Can burn the discs, play the video - but can't "read" the files. If this is the only problem I have I will consider myself fortunate. I made the mistake of flashing the MB bios and had to revert back to the original - Of course it took a few days to get it back right. My new rule - NEVER FLASH YOUR BIOS UNLESS YOU HAVE A NEW BIOS CHIP READY TO INSTALL.
Kinda looking forward to getting away from these things for a few days.
The next time I post should be after creating an BD or AVCHD project using the "editor" in X2. Adding music, titles and stills - should give it a good workout. Should be in the middle of October or early November.
If any one knows why those optical drives won't "read" finished AVCHD and BD discs I would appreciate a post. I do have the latest firmware for each of the drives. You will be a hero to many
Cheers
JackTheBear

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:38 am

Back from holiday I bought some Traxdata Bluray discs on Rbay at £17.50 inc post for ten. These are recognised by my Pioneer Burner and work OK.

I burnt an iso Bluray image I saved of my holiday video using the 'Burnawarefree' program and this played Ok in my computer however my Sony Bluray player cannot play it!

It seems my big problem is that VS 12 cannot handle video with NTSC properties. Are there different versions of VS for Europe and the USA? Do members in the US have any problems creating Bluray discs?

Ray Morris (U.K)

Van Rouge · Post by **Van Rouge** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:40 pm

I asked Corel and they advised me to reinstall VS12 Pro and select NTSC during the installation. I have done this and then tried to create a disc using files saved with NTSC properties.

The process went well until it came to burn to disc when the error 'Internal error in the DVD engine' ocurred again. I have searched the forum and a few other people have had this but no one has a solution.

What can I do next? the Pioneer Bluray burner burns CDs,DVDs and bluray discs using other software with no problem so it must be to do with the VS program.

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