New Info re: AVCHD transition "blips"

[geoffschultz]

Corel has lost me as a customer. I ordered my copy of Sony Vegas yesterday from Amazon for less than what the upgrade to VS4 would have cost. I like many aspects of VS better than Vegas, but Vegas assembles the video frames properly. Maybe I'm fooling myself, but I'm tired of having to make sure that I've trimmed all of video clips "properly" in order get a video to not exhibit these glitches. It's not like they haven't had enough time to get this fixed. I sure wish that they had spent as much time getting the basics correct before adding whiz-bang features like 2D to 3D, etc.

Anyhow, lots of luck to you. Who knows, maybe I'll be back, but I tend to move on and not look back.

-- Geoff

[GuyL]

This problem still exists in X4.

[markg]

This problem still exists in X4.

2 new major versions and they still can't fix this problem? What a joke!

[amateur]

This is simply unprofessional and ridicuolus from Corel.

I already changed for Nero 10 Multimedia Suite (Nero 10 Platinum HD is also recommended).

Very simple to use but it works as a reliable German product at least for what I need (editing HD m2ts and exporting it into also m2ts and to standard mpeg/DVD.)

[RickMen]

Abiel Corel NA,

Can you please advise why Corel have not as yet addressed this issue? Is there some technical limitation that Corel is still trying to resolve? Is it on Corel's radar to resolve? Or is the nature of the issue such that each individual user will have to address based upon their unique circumstance/environment? If so, can tips or guidance on how to tackle the issue would be appreicated!

Appreicate your input.

[Myrtille]

Hi

I've been in touch with the Corel support guys for 4 months about this problem (cases 110308-000197 and 101129-000213) and eventually I convinced them to take action to fix it ; yesterday I received the answer :

Thank you for emailing again and for the valuable feedback.

This issue and the forum link has been reported to the engineering department and managers here in Corel. It will need to be resolved in a service pack release to correct the problem. Service packs are made available at http://www.corel.com/support you can check here for patch updates as they are made available.

Should you have further questions, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind regards,
Nelson
Corel Customer Support

For many of us, this blips issue, which is in fact due to a duplication of frames by the VS X2 rendering process, is a major problem that makes VS X2 and the following versions unsuitable for AVHCD editing and will force VS users to move to another software if this product default is not fixed within a reasonnable period of time (2 months).

To be continued...

[GuyL]

Hi

I've been in touch with the Corel support guys for 4 months about this problem (cases 110308-000197 and 101129-000213) and eventually I convinced them to take action to fix it ; yesterday I received the answer :

Thank you for emailing again and for the valuable feedback.

This issue and the forum link has been reported to the engineering department and managers here in Corel. It will need to be resolved in a service pack release to correct the problem. Service packs are made available at http://www.corel.com/support you can check here for patch updates as they are made available.

Should you have further questions, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind regards,
Nelson
Corel Customer Support



For many of us, this blips issue, which is in fact due to a duplication of frames by the VS X2 rendering process, is a major problem that makes VS X2 and the following versions unsuitable for AVHCD editing and will force VS users to move to another software if this product default is not fixed within a reasonnable period of time (2 months).

To be continued...

I already have. I'm falling in love with Adobe Premiere. It is a wonderful product and I recommend it highly. The same with Photoshop over Paint Shop. You can buy the Elements bundle at a fair price.

[laidback]

Hi

I've been in touch with the Corel support guys for 4 months about this problem (cases 110308-000197 and 101129-000213) and eventually I convinced them to take action to fix it ; yesterday I received the answer :

Thank you for emailing again and for the valuable feedback.

This issue and the forum link has been reported to the engineering department and managers here in Corel. It will need to be resolved in a service pack release to correct the problem. Service packs are made available at http://www.corel.com/support you can check here for patch updates as they are made available.

Should you have further questions, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind regards,
Nelson
Corel Customer Support



For many of us, this blips issue, which is in fact due to a duplication of frames by the VS X2 rendering process, is a major problem that makes VS X2 and the following versions unsuitable for AVHCD editing and will force VS users to move to another software if this product default is not fixed within a reasonnable period of time (2 months).

To be continued...

I already have. I'm falling in love with Adobe Premiere. It is a wonderful product and I recommend it highly. The same with Photoshop over Paint Shop. You can buy the Elements bundle at a fair price.

Lets hope Ulead and its Associate Corel don't get their mitz On Adobes products and stuff them up too!..
But then there is always Sony, and its brilliant Package that exports every format I have thrown at it, much like Uleads & Corels Try Before you buy do, but once you purchase it bye bye to importing much the same..

[Black Lab]

Lets hope Ulead and its Associate Corel don't get their mitz On Adobes products and stuff them up too!..
But then there is always Sony, and its brilliant Package that exports every format I have thrown at it, much like Uleads & Corels Try Before you buy do, but once you purchase it bye bye to importing much the same..

Don't bash Ulead. The products put out by Ulead were top-notch and their customer support was above average. It wasn't until Intervideo and, subsequently, Corel bought out Ulead did things start to go down hill.

[GuyL]

Ah, the good old Ulead days....those were the days.

[laidback]

Lets hope Ulead and its Associate Corel don't get their mitz On Adobes products and stuff them up too!..
But then there is always Sony, and its brilliant Package that exports every format I have thrown at it, much like Uleads & Corels Try Before you buy does, but once you purchase it bye bye to importing much the same..

Don't bash Ulead. The products put out by Ulead were top-notch and their customer support was above average. It wasn't until Inter-video and, subsequently, Corel bought out Ulead did things start to go down hill.

I Didn't mean to bash Ulead - Even so, I disagree that Ulead is or was a top notch software company I want it known that "My experience" with a full version failed to import many of my MP3 and Videos, whilst with the TRY BUY Version there wasn't a hint of this Problem, Put simply and to be Blunt - I was deceived into believing a purchased version should or would also import all of those files that I often used, much like the TRY BUY version had as it gave no hint to it's lurking problem with the many MP3's and Video Formats out there, and because its try buy worked so well - it suckered me into buying the full Version which unfortunately simply could not import them as as the TRY BUY Version had - Damn well always got that "format file missmatch" message with all of the full versions, so I ended up spending a lot of time destroying definition by converting Files that would import and work in all other NLE's..
After many exchanges with Support, the problem never got fixed, and further more the problem still exists to this very day in all of their latest full Versions, it upsets me to no end knowing that all these cheats who have hacked a TRY BUY Version don't have the problem I have..

Anyway here we are in 2011, and heres this thread about a problem that goes back how many years? and more importantly how many "Versions" is infected?
Yeah OK I concede maybe my standards are above the norm?

Look I concede, Perhaps the glitch problem wasnt evident with Video-Studio Version 10 Plus, mainly becuase AVCHD wasnt officially supported back then, but I have to admit I have never seen this threads glitch, my gripe is that the latest Full version of Video-Studio X4 more than likely will still NOT import videos and Mp3's as good as its TRY Buy Version, or for that matter any other Video Suite "Freeware ones included!" ..

[GuyL]

Yes, I've run into the file support issue as well. I mentioned other things here like the AVCHD blips, CUDA support, and horrible Auto Music performance but the file mismatch is what really made me go buy Premiere. My wife is a paranormal investigator and the AVI videos that her 4 camera DVR exports will not pull into Video Studio. I have to pull them in to Premiere and render them out so she can use them in Video Studio. I'll be buying a second copy of Premiere here shortly for her. She is so fed up with the problems she is now willing to learn a new program.

[pvreditor]

FWIW, I bought VS4 when it came out and finally had the opportunity to do a bunch of AVCHD-to-AVCHD editing, using video from the same camera that caused fits with AVCHD-to-AVCHD with VS2. It works perfectly! Absolutely no glitches at all and the video is clean. Yesterday, I shot some video of blossoms and plants at the National Arboretum in Washington, DC, and posted it on YouTube. Here it is:



All the video is from a Canon Vixia HF11 and it was all done at 1080i resolution. There are no glitches in the finished product at all.

By the way, the music is all by the SmartSound automated music generator that comes with VS4. (VS2 and VS3 have something similar.) That's me doing a brief voice-over near the beginning.

Yeah, I had to buy VS4 to get glitch-free transitions, but it's good to know that it works.

Bob Kovacs
http://www.bobkovacs.com

[steveandlizdonaldson]

Hello, Bob-

This looks good. I have X3 (with trouble editing AVCHD) and am trying to decide if I should move to x4 or just drop Corel and move to something else. So, my questions for you: what frame rate did you use, and was it interlaced or progressive? My camera can shoot 1080-60i or 1080-30p (as well as a frame rate of 24, and resolution of 720 which I prefer not to use).

Have you done this with someone speaking on camera (or clear cases where the audio must be exactly synced with the video)? If so, did it work well? What file format did you save as?

Thanks,

Steve

[pvreditor]

Hello, Bob-

This looks good. I have X3 (with trouble editing AVCHD) and am trying to decide if I should move to x4 or just drop Corel and move to something else. So, my questions for you: what frame rate did you use, and was it interlaced or progressive? My camera can shoot 1080-60i or 1080-30p (as well as a frame rate of 24, and resolution of 720 which I prefer not to use).

Have you done this with someone speaking on camera (or clear cases where the audio must be exactly synced with the video)? If so, did it work well? What file format did you save as?

Steve, I used 1080-60i in the camera. This was the first project that I went from AVCHD to AVCHD, with the input and output formats being the same. I have used VS4 to edit a couple of semi-pro projects from AVCHD to WMV. Those worked fine as well. I have not tried to work with material where the audio and video must be exactly synced, but I will probably work on such a project in the next three weeks.

I really wanted to stay with Corel VideoStudio to protect my investment in time. I had VS2 at home and use VS3 almost daily at work. It turns out that the user interfact to VS4 is nearly the same as VS3, so there is no learning curve.

Bob Kovacs
http://www.bobkovacs.com