X2 Pro Captured Files Crash Windows Explorer & Media Pla

Saverio · Post by **Saverio** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:08 am

Upgraded from VS 10+ to X2 Pro. HDV mpg files Captured from my Canon HV20 with Ver 10+ always were accessable in Windows XP Explorer, and playable in Widows Media Player 11. However, files captured from the same camcorder in VS X2Pro crash my system when I try to acces them in Windows Explorer to copy or move thefiles. I also crash when I try to play the files in Media Player 11. the X2 Pro captured file generate the standard " ___ program encounterred an error & needs to close" message. then I have to task manager my way back to the desktop.
Just to make sure that I had not developed a glitch in my Windows I reinstalled Ver 10+ and recaptured the same video from the same camcorder and the files again worked and were accessable from Windows Explorer & played in Media Player with no crashing.
However, note that the X2 Pro captured files that crash my system as described are oddly usable in the X2 for editing and rendering out.
Is it possable the X@ Pro is using a different capture program that somehow saves the file with a differnt codec that is unrecognizable to Windows than the one used in Ver 10+ ?. This is a big annoyance & I would like to find a fix. Thanks to anyone who can help.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:58 am

I'm afraid I can't really help. I happen to have a Canon HV20 as well, and use X2 (and VS11.5 and 10+ which are also installed on the same computer) to capture and edit. The operating system is Vista Ultimate 32 bit.

As far as I am aware, the X2 capture plug-in is the same as that in VS11.5/11. It was introduced in the latter version after Corel had taken over the companies which had previously made the product (originally Ulead and then, briefly, InterVideo). In fact with VS11, they substituted an InterVideo capture plug-in (called the IVI Capture Component) which is meant to do the job of a variety of other capture plug-ins that had worked well in VS10 and preceding versions. The ostensible reason given by Corel for the change was that it was to make the program compatible with Vista which it claimed cannot work with the DirectShow technology used by the old plug-ins. I find this strange since a number of other editing programs, which are completely compatible with Vista, continue to use DirectShow technology.

But regardless of that, I have no trouble using either VS11.5+ or X2 to capture my high definition .m2t files from the HV20, much less in using Windows Explorer to move them around, copy and paste them or anything else.

As far as WMP is concerned, I don't think it can actually "see" files with the .m2t extension. I happen to prefer using either WinDVD or PowerDVD to play my HDV creations. But to get WMP to do so, you have to change the extension from .m2t to .mpg

All that being said, one annoyance I have is that X2 cannot split incoming mpegs (including HDV) by scene during capture. So I prefer to use a small freeware program called HDVSplit to capture. Then I open the captured files in X2 for editing and authoring.

So all I can suggest is that you Google for that program and try it out. But otherwise, as I said at the outset, I have no idea what might be causing your problem. However, it is certainly not the codec.

As a footnote, I might add one other thing about the HV20 and earlier and later Canon HDV cameras -- and that is that neither VS11/11.5+ nor X2 can export your edited HDV back to the camera. It was a bug first noted in VS10+ and corrected by a patch specifically developed by Ulead for Canon cameras. You would have thought Corel would have worked that patch into the newer versions, but it seems they have not. So when I want to export my edited video back to a DV tape for storage or playing using the camera connected via HDMI to a HDTV, I have to do all the editing in X2, but then I have to save the project as a VS10 project, and then open it in VS10 to actually carry out the export successfully! A bit cumbersome, but it certainly works!

It is worth adding that this export process produces a transport stream .mpg file with high def properties. But with the .mpg extension, I use that, in combination with WMP as my server, to stream my high def HDV videos direct to my HDTV from the computer via a networked Sony PlayStation 3.

Saverio · Post by **Saverio** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:35 pm

Thanks for your reply.

It sounds like your X2 Pro captures from your Canon HV20 are saved as mt2 files instead of the mpg files that my captures from the same camera are saved as. Is there a setting in X2 Pro to change the format that the captured files are saved as?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:50 pm

But .m2t *is* the extension used by HDV. The HV20, through its internal menu, is set to output HDV (though I am pretty sure this is the default anyway). I connect it via firewire to the computer. VS detects the camera and tells me it is a Canon. Capture proceeds and I have .m2t files which have the standard HDV properties of being mpeg-2 files, Upper Field First, 1440 x 1080, with a bitrate of 25 Mbps. Audio is mpeg layer 2. I make no adjustments anywhere. This is just what happens.

Can you confirm that you are capturing using the mini Firewire jack on the camera, and not the mini USB one?

Saverio · Post by **Saverio** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:27 am

Yes, I absolutely, positively capture using a Firewire cable connected to the output of my HV 20, and to the Firewire input of my HP Media Center (XP) PC.

In VS X2 Pro I select the Capture Tab, then with the HV20 set to playback I click on Capture, then I can See the Canon HV20 recognized in the SOURCE field and MPEG is the default , and ONLY selection available in the FORMAT field. After capture, the captured file has an mpg extention.

This also is what happens when I capture using the same procedure in VS 10+

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:51 am

Do you have HDVSplit which I mentioned above? If not, it is freeware and you can Google for it. It's also small so won't take long to download. Test your HV20 with this. In may case it also downloads HDV with the .m2t extension.

Saverio · Post by **Saverio** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:16 pm

Downloaded HDVSplit and it did capture my Canon HV20 files as mt2, and I was able to play that mt2 file in Windows Media Player 11.

I still don't understand why both My VS 10+ and my VS X2 Pro versions capture my HV20 videos as mpg files, but your VS X2 Pro captures as mt2 from the same Canon HV20. Strange

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:13 pm

Equally strange that your WMP 11 will play an m2t file with that extension, when my same version of WMP will not see the files unless I change the extension to mpg!!

But at least you now have something which works -- and I think you will like HDVSplit as well since it ... um ... splits the incoming video by scene and gives you lots of individual video files which are much easier to manipulate (well, at least for me) than one single big file later being split only virtually during editing.