I think this is becoming a more feasible option. Partly because the Mac share of computer users has risen from 2 or 3% to 6 or 7%, and partly because Macs aren't as outrageously over priced as they have been in the past. This means that there is a larger pool of users who are looking for a greater range of software, especially software that is more reasonably priced than a lot of Mac stuff has traditionally been.joelw135 wrote:I might be the only one, but I would like to see a Mac version.
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A very good point plus the fact that the display on the Mac is really fantastic. I have the iMac 24" 3.06 and I profiled the display using a borrowed profiling tool and it was dead on. It was hard to tell the difference between the before and after.Tim Morrison wrote:I think this is becoming a more feasible option. Partly because the Mac share of computer users has risen from 2 or 3% to 6 or 7%, and partly because Macs aren't as outrageously over priced as they have been in the past. This means that there is a larger pool of users who are looking for a greater range of software, especially software that is more reasonably priced than a lot of Mac stuff has traditionally been.joelw135 wrote:I might be the only one, but I would like to see a Mac version.
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They're bound to.sjj1805 wrote:Problem I foresee here is that someone will ask "What about Linux".
I would be very surprised to see a Linux version of PSP. The desktop market share is minuscule, and even smaller among photographers. And Linux users don't buy much software... they tend to stick with the freeware alternatives.
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My enhancement suggestions
I have to say that I look forward to the next version of PSP, because I anticipate it will offer even more, but positively am loving it. Everything I do with it simply generates a far better result than working with that "other" company's photo editing tool. It is rapidly becoming one of my most favorite programs - and i have quite a few of them.
Having said that, I have sent customer care a handful of suggestions and items of feedback.
Although not an everyday occurrence, I do need to edit or resize animated GIFs from time to time. The animation tool isn't bundled with PSP, which is fine, but there is nothing in the program that enables you to try the animation tool for 30 days with PSP. It doesn't even have a pop up that alerts you that it isn't bundled with a link to download and try the add on for 30 days. So, someone unfamiliar with PSP and working with the APE paradigm can easily feel frustrated. Someone on this forum did point me to Michelle's PSP so I was able to see a tutorial of it in action, but most people aren't that persistent. The integration of the animated GIF program as a special add on (step up) would probably ratchet up perception of the product.
It would be great to have a frames palette one could dock, and also one for borders
Although I can manually copy frames to a favorites folder, I would love to be able to mark a frame as a favorite and have it copied there
We really need a built-in importer or converter for csh files (from APE) as some designers offer that format only.
For the plugins (add on filters), I would love to be able to click a box to have a filter added as a favorite, and placed in a favorite plugins area.
I encountered a challenge learning how to create drop shadows and in the process discovered that adding borders does not result in them getting placed in their own layer. This makes editing them to change any of their characteristics impossible, unless I am missing something. Additionally, ideally, drop shadow treatments should be part of the border creation dialog as well as it's own menu item (where it is today.) This would enable the changing of the color, width, drop shadow, etc by editing it in retrospect.
If one has multiple tabs open, one must scroll right and left to view them. In Firefox, I use a plugin which stacks my tabs so that they all fit within the visible window, and a scroll bar is presented on either side (which I specify) to enable me to scroll the various rows of tabs if they exceed a specified number for the visible number of rows. So, for example, if I have specified show 5 rows of tabs, and I have so many open that it would take 7 rows to present them all, the scroll bar appears so I can navigate all of the rows. This would be a fabulous enhancement to PSP Ultimate. I also use an add on that colors the tabs for quick identification and contrast. The add on which facilitates this, also allows the specification of minimum and maximum widths for each tab, so I can specify that as well, to my preference.
Right now, to close a tab, I have to click on the x at the far right. It would be ideal to have the x appear on the right of each individual tab.
In SnagIt, I can choose "color substitution" and specify the percent of the match for a color to change and what to change it to. I have become pretty efficient at using the color changing tools in PSP, but if I only want to change one of the colors, I am not getting the desired result. This isn't a disaster, as the end result is still always gorgeous, but obviously I'd prefer to have a little more control over changing colors. This may be more of a newbie issue than a functionality issue but I wanted to share it with you - in case it is functionality related.
In SnagIt, I can click a button to "delete white space". This function is enormously helpful for images where I may have specified excessive white space. I'd love to see this functionality in PSP Ultimate. It's essentially smart clipping. You could even enable it to clip the image based on x number of pixels from elements on the canvas or the edge or what have you, without going into canvas size multiple times to progressively attain the desired result.
Image preview in the canvas resizing dialog would be enormously helpful.
It would be awesome to be able to create a palette from an image. This site will do that for an uploaded image, but doesn't offer PSP palette creation: http://www.cssdrive.com/imagepalette/index.php Being able to specify how many colors minimum to generate would be great. I would probably choose more to obtain the gradations. Additionally, the ability to be able to define different palettes would be fabulous, with a drop down to view any of them in a given context.
In the Materials Palette, I have been unable to locate a sliding scale to choose or modify the shade of a particular color (making it darker or lighter.) That would be wonderful.
If I choose a texture in the materials palette and seek to replace a color with it, the color isn't replaced, nor can I change the colors of the textures. I'd love to be able to do both.
I second the batch resizing request, and Tim's enhancement suggestions.
If I choose selection contract modify then resize the marching ants, I can no longer choose to edit the selected area. It would really help to be able to edit the area or crop it after manually resizing through this method.
I have found the SmartSize algorithm in advanced sizing works extremely well, but also enabling Cat Mull-Rom algorithm (my favorite in a stand-alone resizer tool)) or the ability to use Alien Skin's Blow Up would be great. I haven't been able to test side by side results between Smart Size and Blow Up and there may not be an incremental benefit to it, but it would be a nice option as I already own it...
Right clicking on an image and choosing "open with PSP" doesn't. I have to be in PSP and do the conventional ctrl+o
I may have overlooked it but didn't see a way to specify the coordinates (position on image) of text in text boxes, I ended up aligning it all using grids.
If one has to uninstall and reinstall for any reason, it would be great to have the option to keep one's settings, or remove everything.
Regarding rumors of selling some of their assets, I hadn't heard that, but have to say that download.com is reporting over 13 million downloads of the current PSP, so it appears they may have a healthy number of users and therefore a valuable corporate asset in this tool, and a wonderful motivation to keep it extremely dynamic and leading edge regarding features, I would think.
Thanks again so much for all of your help through this forum. I'll post here again in the event I think of other ideas for PSP.
Sue
Having said that, I have sent customer care a handful of suggestions and items of feedback.
Although not an everyday occurrence, I do need to edit or resize animated GIFs from time to time. The animation tool isn't bundled with PSP, which is fine, but there is nothing in the program that enables you to try the animation tool for 30 days with PSP. It doesn't even have a pop up that alerts you that it isn't bundled with a link to download and try the add on for 30 days. So, someone unfamiliar with PSP and working with the APE paradigm can easily feel frustrated. Someone on this forum did point me to Michelle's PSP so I was able to see a tutorial of it in action, but most people aren't that persistent. The integration of the animated GIF program as a special add on (step up) would probably ratchet up perception of the product.
It would be great to have a frames palette one could dock, and also one for borders
Although I can manually copy frames to a favorites folder, I would love to be able to mark a frame as a favorite and have it copied there
We really need a built-in importer or converter for csh files (from APE) as some designers offer that format only.
For the plugins (add on filters), I would love to be able to click a box to have a filter added as a favorite, and placed in a favorite plugins area.
I encountered a challenge learning how to create drop shadows and in the process discovered that adding borders does not result in them getting placed in their own layer. This makes editing them to change any of their characteristics impossible, unless I am missing something. Additionally, ideally, drop shadow treatments should be part of the border creation dialog as well as it's own menu item (where it is today.) This would enable the changing of the color, width, drop shadow, etc by editing it in retrospect.
If one has multiple tabs open, one must scroll right and left to view them. In Firefox, I use a plugin which stacks my tabs so that they all fit within the visible window, and a scroll bar is presented on either side (which I specify) to enable me to scroll the various rows of tabs if they exceed a specified number for the visible number of rows. So, for example, if I have specified show 5 rows of tabs, and I have so many open that it would take 7 rows to present them all, the scroll bar appears so I can navigate all of the rows. This would be a fabulous enhancement to PSP Ultimate. I also use an add on that colors the tabs for quick identification and contrast. The add on which facilitates this, also allows the specification of minimum and maximum widths for each tab, so I can specify that as well, to my preference.
Right now, to close a tab, I have to click on the x at the far right. It would be ideal to have the x appear on the right of each individual tab.
In SnagIt, I can choose "color substitution" and specify the percent of the match for a color to change and what to change it to. I have become pretty efficient at using the color changing tools in PSP, but if I only want to change one of the colors, I am not getting the desired result. This isn't a disaster, as the end result is still always gorgeous, but obviously I'd prefer to have a little more control over changing colors. This may be more of a newbie issue than a functionality issue but I wanted to share it with you - in case it is functionality related.
In SnagIt, I can click a button to "delete white space". This function is enormously helpful for images where I may have specified excessive white space. I'd love to see this functionality in PSP Ultimate. It's essentially smart clipping. You could even enable it to clip the image based on x number of pixels from elements on the canvas or the edge or what have you, without going into canvas size multiple times to progressively attain the desired result.
Image preview in the canvas resizing dialog would be enormously helpful.
It would be awesome to be able to create a palette from an image. This site will do that for an uploaded image, but doesn't offer PSP palette creation: http://www.cssdrive.com/imagepalette/index.php Being able to specify how many colors minimum to generate would be great. I would probably choose more to obtain the gradations. Additionally, the ability to be able to define different palettes would be fabulous, with a drop down to view any of them in a given context.
In the Materials Palette, I have been unable to locate a sliding scale to choose or modify the shade of a particular color (making it darker or lighter.) That would be wonderful.
If I choose a texture in the materials palette and seek to replace a color with it, the color isn't replaced, nor can I change the colors of the textures. I'd love to be able to do both.
I second the batch resizing request, and Tim's enhancement suggestions.
If I choose selection contract modify then resize the marching ants, I can no longer choose to edit the selected area. It would really help to be able to edit the area or crop it after manually resizing through this method.
I have found the SmartSize algorithm in advanced sizing works extremely well, but also enabling Cat Mull-Rom algorithm (my favorite in a stand-alone resizer tool)) or the ability to use Alien Skin's Blow Up would be great. I haven't been able to test side by side results between Smart Size and Blow Up and there may not be an incremental benefit to it, but it would be a nice option as I already own it...
Right clicking on an image and choosing "open with PSP" doesn't. I have to be in PSP and do the conventional ctrl+o
I may have overlooked it but didn't see a way to specify the coordinates (position on image) of text in text boxes, I ended up aligning it all using grids.
If one has to uninstall and reinstall for any reason, it would be great to have the option to keep one's settings, or remove everything.
Regarding rumors of selling some of their assets, I hadn't heard that, but have to say that download.com is reporting over 13 million downloads of the current PSP, so it appears they may have a healthy number of users and therefore a valuable corporate asset in this tool, and a wonderful motivation to keep it extremely dynamic and leading edge regarding features, I would think.
Thanks again so much for all of your help through this forum. I'll post here again in the event I think of other ideas for PSP.
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I know you gave two options. But I wanted to point something out in case people start a "make it compatible with this plugin" stuff after you. I mean I like the idea but that happening relies upon two groups, Adobe and Alien Skin....or the ability to use Alien Skin's Blow Up
Adobe does not allow their newest SDKs for their plugins to be available to non-Adobe products. So Paint Shop Pro can't reap the benefits of the latest Adobe plugins. And Alien Skin's Blow Up 2 plugin was designed with the latest SDK. The minimum supported version for Photoshop is CS2 which Paint Shop Pro can't gain support for even if it wanted to. So Alien Skin would have to make a special plugin for Paint Shop Pro.
Anything short of people making Paint Shop Pro developing their own plugin system, Adobe releasing their latest plugin structure to get incorporated into Paint Shop Pro or companies making plugins specific to Paint Shop Pro, just won't work.
Thanks for that info. Just to clarify, however, my other Alien Skin plug ins DO work with PSP. According to Alien Skin, blow up doesn't work with PSP because it's an automation plug in and PSP doesn't use automation. I will follow up with them to see if they are contemplating making it function as their other plug ins do. Frankly, I'd prefer to be able to find it listed with my other plug ins anyway.
I am not a developer so don't have familiarity with the current photoshop SDK, but thought the csh format was quite old and simply continued forward.
I am not a developer so don't have familiarity with the current photoshop SDK, but thought the csh format was quite old and simply continued forward.
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Some parts of plugin compatibility is fixable by Corel. The old and open plugin system can support 16 bit/channel images, but the plugin interface inside PSP hasn't been updated to support anything higher than 8 bits/channel. Also, some plugins, like the PTLens plugin, that corrects lens distortion, needs to be able to read EXIF information from the image so that it can determine what lens, and what focal length, was used to take the photo. It works automatically with applications such as Photoshop which allow a plugin to access EXIF data. In PSP, you need to manually choose the lens info, because the antiquated plugin interface doesn't allow plugins any access to EXIF.
So there is quite a lot that can be done to improve how PSP works with plugins.
There will almost certainly never be any way for PSP to work with the minority of plugins that use the newer Photoshop plugin system. Automation plugins and Photoshop actions will never work either. They automate particular functions within Photoshop. PSP isn't Photoshop or a clone of Photoshop, and doesn't have the same functions to automate.
CSH files are Photoshop custom shape files and are different to PSP custom shapes, and not usable in PSP.
So there is quite a lot that can be done to improve how PSP works with plugins.
There will almost certainly never be any way for PSP to work with the minority of plugins that use the newer Photoshop plugin system. Automation plugins and Photoshop actions will never work either. They automate particular functions within Photoshop. PSP isn't Photoshop or a clone of Photoshop, and doesn't have the same functions to automate.
CSH files are Photoshop custom shape files and are different to PSP custom shapes, and not usable in PSP.
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Wishlist
* Larger preview window in each of the tool operational boxes, including a larger Curves graph
* Revert to old style of resizing the crop retangle by dragging at any point on the boundary lines.
* Add a quick selection tool
* Upgrade the depth of field tool, which has much potential, with quick selection, more manual selection options and a larger preview and work area in the tool window.
* Set Organizer so that it requires user setup first before it runs in PSPP.
* Allow user to interrupt Organizer file search when PSPP starts.
* Replace the text box with the ability to add text directly to the workspace.
* Improve PSPP's use of (and release of) memory.
* Add more online support (and promotion of) scripting feature.
* Provide support for third-party automation tools such as Alien Skin's Blow-Up.
* Include a matching colors tool that opens two images side by side, adjusting principal colors of one with the other (useful for correcting colors in old scanned photos and other scanned images).
* Revert to old style of resizing the crop retangle by dragging at any point on the boundary lines.
* Add a quick selection tool
* Upgrade the depth of field tool, which has much potential, with quick selection, more manual selection options and a larger preview and work area in the tool window.
* Set Organizer so that it requires user setup first before it runs in PSPP.
* Allow user to interrupt Organizer file search when PSPP starts.
* Replace the text box with the ability to add text directly to the workspace.
* Improve PSPP's use of (and release of) memory.
* Add more online support (and promotion of) scripting feature.
* Provide support for third-party automation tools such as Alien Skin's Blow-Up.
* Include a matching colors tool that opens two images side by side, adjusting principal colors of one with the other (useful for correcting colors in old scanned photos and other scanned images).
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Re: Wishlist
You can maximize the dialogue boxes of all PSP tools and filters to get much larger preview images, but it doesn't increase the size of the Curves graph.OldRadioGuy wrote:* Larger preview window in each of the tool operational boxes, including a larger Curves graph
I think that is a very good point. Most of the dialogue boxes were designed to work on 800 x 600 pixel screens, and are way too small on current screens.
Another good suggestion. PSP already supports painting on a selection, but adding the ability of this to find edges would make it extremely useful.OldRadioGuy wrote:* Add a quick selection tool
I agree with all the rest too, except the support for automation plugins. I don't think that is possible, because they automate Photoshop processes that aren't available in PSP.
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I can tell that the posters here have far more experience with PSP than I. Personally, I like the idea of 16bit processing as far as they can take it. I also like the idea of a crop window that is "fixed"...mine varies if I inadvertently grab something other than a corner.
I think the biggest difference between PSP and that "other" bloated program is the amount of material available to explain how to get certain looks, fix photos, use features etc. I would really like to see Corel get behind some books, PDFs, movies that explain and show how to use the various PSP features. I do some experimenting but would love more info. I have 2 books on PSP XII and a few of the magazines. I have looked at a few web pages too....but I think more info would be great.... maybe the help file or a good PDF would be wonderful.
I think the biggest difference between PSP and that "other" bloated program is the amount of material available to explain how to get certain looks, fix photos, use features etc. I would really like to see Corel get behind some books, PDFs, movies that explain and show how to use the various PSP features. I do some experimenting but would love more info. I have 2 books on PSP XII and a few of the magazines. I have looked at a few web pages too....but I think more info would be great.... maybe the help file or a good PDF would be wonderful.