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Is there a way to resize the audio waveform?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:21 am
by tachy
I was wondering if there is an easy way when viewing the audio track in videostudio x2, to resize the image to make the audio waveform larger, so I can see it better. I do see where you can zoom in and out, but that seems to just change the timeline, not the vertical size of the waveform.

Also, as a related question, is there an easier way to adjust the volume on the track, with my laptop trackpad, dragging the control points on that audio line up and down is a bit tedious. It seems dragging the volume slider up and down does not seem to edit the volume. Am I missing something?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:37 am
by Trevor Andrew
Hi

I do not think you can expand the ¡¥wav form¡¦ view.
OK
If you have applied ¡¥rubber banding¡¦ it may be best to re-set/clear the volume changes.
(from audio view right click a clip and select reset volume)

Go back to ¡¥Timeline View¡¦
From the top tabs select ¡¥Edit¡¦ tab, select the video in the timeline.
Adjust the clip volume from the panel adjacent to the digital clock, defaults to 100%
Do the same for clips in the other tracks.
Note:-make sure your pc speakers are set correctly before adjusting clip volumes.

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:57 am
by tachy
what I am trying to do is adjust the volume of just a few places within a clip to mute out or delete some short periods, from within an origional quicktime mov. file downloaded from my digital camera. Other than pulling the control points down and up, I could not find an easy way to mute the clip for a brief second or two.

The mute or fade control seem to be greyed out unless I am working with an added audio track. What I am trying to do is edit the sound of the mov. file and save the new file. (keeping the old, unedited file as well)

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:35 am
by Ron P.
You can increase the size by placing your cursor where the timeline and the rest of the UI joins together. Look for small dots just below the volume bar-graph, and just above the Enable Smart Proxy, and Batch Convert icons. Your cursor should change to up and down arrows. Drag it up. It doesn't resize it much, especially if you have several tracks visible.

I think what Trevor is advising, is using the volume slider on the Surround Sound Mixer Tab. This is how that can be done..
1. Click on the Speaker icon to enter Audio View
2. Move the Playhead to the position you want to change the volume.
3. Click on your clip to highlight/select it.
4. Click on Project Mode.
5. Drag the Volume slider down or up to change the volume. When you move it, VS should place a keyframe node, and the rubber-band should move accordingly.
6. Move the playhead to your next position, and repeat the above.

The key to the above, is this must be done in Project Mode not clip mode.

If you're going to be using your laptop for much editing, I would invest in a USB wireless mouse for laptops. MicroSoft makes one, they're not that expensive, and money well spent. Here's what I use..http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse ... px?pid=070

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:32 pm
by tachy
As far as resizing, yes, I guess that makes it minimally bigger by making the top half with the video a little smaller. I do wish you could perhaps at least temporarily make the video/audio track the only track at the bottom or at least remove one or two of the tracks down the bottom while you edit the ones still there.

In regard to the volume, thanks, it is not inherently obvious the correct sequence of what to hit to change the volume that way, but it seems to work. You can then use the frame advance forward and backward to slide the volume bar up and down just a few frames to mute out a section.

Is there a quck way to get the volume back to 0 (like entering the number 0 into a box, or by hitting some key? It seems sliding the slider is kind of hit or miss.

And yes, I have a bluetooth mouse and can use it for this, that is a good idea.

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:15 pm
by Ron P.
Just right-click on the slider to reset it to the zero or default level. I've never tried using it in this way before now. So I dropped a video clip onto the timeline, made some volume adjustments using the slider. Then to bring the volume back up, I right-clicked on the slider (as the tool-tip suggested) and it brought it back up, placing a keyframe on the rubber-band...:)

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:44 am
by sjj1805
I placed a request to be able to resize the audio track in the same manner as MediaStudio quite some time ago.

What I do is to export the audio track as a WAV file and then open it with Audacity - fiddle around with the audio track (Make sure you don't alter the duration) and then import it back again.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:51 am
by janther
hi guys, this is the reason i joined the forum.
i recently purchased X2 and found it to be very simple to use
(i've tried premiere, sony vegas, imovie, etc)
my one gripe was the lack of audio control.

the particular project i'm working on has music playing throughout.
but depending on the scene (whether its a title card or some kind of dialogue)
i'd like the volume to be different levels.
the way i've been achieving this is throwing the mp3 into cool edit
and basically guessing (based on the timeline) where to lower/raise the volume. needless to say, its not the most accurate. so i'm kind of stuck at
this point. any further help would be very much appreciated!
thanks

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:11 am
by sjj1805
janther wrote:hi guys, this is the reason i joined the forum.
i recently purchased X2 and found it to be very simple to use
(i've tried premiere, sony vegas, imovie, etc)
my one gripe was the lack of audio control.

the particular project i'm working on has music playing throughout.
but depending on the scene (whether its a title card or some kind of dialogue)
i'd like the volume to be different levels.
the way i've been achieving this is throwing the mp3 into cool edit
and basically guessing (based on the timeline) where to lower/raise the volume. needless to say, its not the most accurate. so i'm kind of stuck at
this point. any further help would be very much appreciated!
thanks
:shock: :shock: :shock: :!: :!: :!:
Cool Edit Pro is now Adobe Audition

Adobe Systems Incorporated acquired the technology assets of Syntrillium Software in May 2003 and introduced Adobe® Audition® software (a rebranded release of Cool Edit Pro) in August 2003. Adobe Audition 2.0 is the most current version of the software, and Syntrillium's other products have been discontinued.

Purchase now from the Adobe Store in the UK for ¢G316.25

(Erm.... just how much did you pay for VideoStudio?)

Now compare that to Audacity - Cost = FREE.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:41 am
by janther
sjj1805 wrote:
janther wrote:hi guys, this is the reason i joined the forum.
i recently purchased X2 and found it to be very simple to use
(i've tried premiere, sony vegas, imovie, etc)
my one gripe was the lack of audio control.

the particular project i'm working on has music playing throughout.
but depending on the scene (whether its a title card or some kind of dialogue)
i'd like the volume to be different levels.
the way i've been achieving this is throwing the mp3 into cool edit
and basically guessing (based on the timeline) where to lower/raise the volume. needless to say, its not the most accurate. so i'm kind of stuck at
this point. any further help would be very much appreciated!
thanks
:shock: :shock: :shock: :!: :!: :!:
Cool Edit Pro is now Adobe Audition

Adobe Systems Incorporated acquired the technology assets of Syntrillium Software in May 2003 and introduced AdobeR AuditionR software (a rebranded release of Cool Edit Pro) in August 2003. Adobe Audition 2.0 is the most current version of the software, and Syntrillium's other products have been discontinued.

Purchase now from the Adobe Store in the UK for ¢G316.25

(Erm.... just how much did you pay for VideoStudio?)

Now compare that to Audacity - Cost = FREE.


i dont know what my preference in audio editing software has to do with my question, but if it matters,
ive never needed audition, and dislike audacity.
ALSO i dont like how it was implied that my choice of said software
meant i somehow illegally obtained a copy of X2.

ive actually figured out a solution to my problem
thanks for your help!!! :roll:

(for the record i purchased videostudio from the corel website as a download)

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:38 am
by Ron P.
No I don't think that Steve implied you had obtained it illegally, just a price comparison. Adobe's software is fairly expensive compared to Corel's. That's all Steve was looking at.

Not all like Audacity, but for what can be done with it, the price isn't that bad...free ;)

While I also will use Audacity, I also am a big fan of SmartSound, so I use SonicFire Pro. It allows importing your video to match the audio to. You can get frame-accurate cue on volumes, moods, and style settings. Then once your done, you can export just the audio, or the audio and video together..

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:32 am
by sjj1805
janther wrote: i dont know what my preference in audio editing software has to do with my question, but if it matters,
ive never needed audition, and dislike audacity.
ALSO i dont like how it was implied that my choice of said software
meant i somehow illegally obtained a copy of X2.

ive actually figured out a solution to my problem
thanks for your help!!! :roll:

(for the record i purchased videostudio from the corel website as a download)
I did not accuse you have obtaining VideoStudio illegally, Like Ron said I was comparing how much you paid for what members on THIS forum would consider to be the main program (VideoStudio) to the Ancillary program (Cool Edit). You might not see it that way but that is how members of this Video Editing Forum view it.

You need to also remember that other members read these responses and before anyone rushed off to invest loads of money on Cool Edit I consider it important that they are made aware of the cost implications.

There are plenty of alternatives - Audacity is one and is FREE.
Just like Ron, I also use Sonic Fire Pro - however Sonic Fire Pro is not quite the same thing - it is more of a music generator than it is a sound editor. Whilst you probably could edit the sound with Sonic Fire Pro - in the circumstances described by tachy - Audacity or another similar editor such as Wavelab would be more appropriate.