Rendering

Moderator: Ken Berry

MikeGunter

Post by MikeGunter »

Rich2Putt wrote:Mike,

If I understand all of this, although I have an analog camcorder, transfering the data through an ADS analog to digital converter, I can "capture' in DV AVI.

After I capture in DV AVI, do all my edits, titles etc....in the time line
1)...I go to "share" "create file' and change the setting to MPEG2 (which will now render the project.
2)...Then go to create disk, add chapters etc ...and burn to DVD (setting at MPEG2)

Does this sound right?
By Jove, I think he's got it!

:lol:

Mike
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Rich,
There are basically two methods for video editing. Both are oulined in the Recommended Procedure in the top post. Either one will work well.

IMHO, when capturing analog with a capture box, it is a whole lot simpler and more straightforward to let the box capture to your final video format - Mpeg2. Your capture box may not even permit capturing to AVI. Mpeg files also take up less space than AVI on your hard drives. You will not notice Mpeg compression artifacts unless you squeeze the bitrate.

AVI capture is really for digital camcorders, where the bits on the tape are simply copied to a file on the computer. This puts less stress on an older, slower computer during capture.

Bottom line: Analog video is a full step lower in quality than digital (two steps lower if you connect using composite connectors). There is no way to make it better. IMHO, You are unlikely to see any benefit from AVI.
John
Rich2Putt
Posts: 306
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:02 pm
operating_system: Mac
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
processor: 2.9
ram: 8gb
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1TB
Monitor/Display Make & Model: IMac AIO
Location: MA - USA

Post by Rich2Putt »

I do think I got it !!!!!!!!!!

I always thought that capturing to DV AVI was for digital camcorders.

I know I'm still in the dark ages with an analog camcorder, it still works well.....although a digital camcorder will be my next purchase in the very near future......

Thanks to all for your aomments/input........somethings need a longer explanation to sink in.... :D
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Rich2Putt

I capture to Dv-Avi
I edit my project adding titles / audio etc
I create a video file (Pal Dvd or Ntsc_Dvd)
I use the new video file created above to burn a Dvd.

Have a read at
Quick guide to Avi
Quick guide to Mpeg

From the link below
Hope this Helps

Trevor
rcurzon

Post by rcurzon »

Mike Gunter says:
"I recommend that one capture and edit in the least lossy format one can. Right now, that is DV AVI"

I read that a lot. But I'm not sure if it applies to me.

I capture via a WinFast tv2000 card, from a VCR.

This is a reversed interlace from DV I think? Can I still get this 13GB/hour compression using DV AVI

Or is it not an option for my setup due to VHS Upper First vs DV Lower First interlace?
User avatar
Ken Berry
Site Admin
Posts: 22481
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:36 pm
operating_system: Windows 11
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC
processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
ram: 32 GB DDR4
Video Card: AMD RX 6600 XT
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1 TB SSD + 2 TB HDD
Monitor/Display Make & Model: Kogan 32" 4K 3840 x 2160
Corel programs: VS2022; PSP2023; DRAW2021; Painter 2022
Location: Levin, New Zealand

Post by Ken Berry »

rcurzon -- I too use the tv2000 card, but find that it captures from my analogue video camera Lower Field First. This surprised me initially, but it seems to work and the quality is good.
Ken Berry
rcurzon

Post by rcurzon »

Ken thanks for the feedback. This is really wild and woolly, but although we have similar equipment and tasks to do... which is rare enough... one key difference: I capture straight from VCR to my TV2000 card using RCA cables. I don't own a video camera. Well, I use my wife's little powershot to capture short AVIs but that doesn't count!

So I might try it anyway, somewhere down my todo list...

I'm looking for a way to capture higher res than MPEG2, but no way I can afford the 2.2 GB/minute quoted for AVI capture. 13GB/HOUR sounds definitely within range however... which is the number quoted for DV AVI.

There should be a simple chart somewhere, but ... who would keep it up to date ;-).
Post Reply