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Crop on the fly?

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Hi All,


I have several music video disks that I would like to get ripped.

Many of them were shot in wide screen but put on disk in full screen mode.

I would like to get rid of the black bars on the top and bottom and have the widescreen video be as proportionate/large as possible. Is it possible to crop the bars on the fly?

Thanks
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Post by Ron P. »

Not without using a workaround, that may or may not work. I've never attempted this, but it's the only way I can think of..

Place all those clips in the timeline, and then save your project. Next start a new project, and then insert the project file (VSP) you just saved as a video clip into the timeline. VS will treat this project file as one video clip. Now apply the Crop Filter to it.
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What crop filter?

I can't figure out how to crop the black bars out.
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Post by Ron P. »

The crop filter is located in the Video Filter Library, under 2D mapping. You drag and drop the filter onto your clip. Then you can choose one of the presets, which for what you want to do, I would use the top-left (first one). Then press the Customize button.

In the customize dialog, you adjust the Width and Height by entering numbers in the boxes provided. The numbers represent percentages, not pixels. You'll notice a timeline that has 2 red diamonds, 1 at the start one at the end. These are keyframes, which you can add as many as you want. However again for you, I would adjust the crop settings, then right-click on the first keyframe, select copy and paste to all. Then press OK.
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Post by SimJimJones »

Thanks for the help so far.

I am either not explaining the issue right, or I can't figure out how to crop.


Let me try a textual visual - lol.

To visualize the frame as I am seeing it. I have 3 boxes 1,2 and 3. Box 3 is the actual orig footage that I would like to maximize (proportionately to the edges).

Draw a rectangle 2x4 (Box 1)
Draw a square inside that 2x2 (4x3 format as it was on the disk)
And now draw a 16x9 box in the 2x2 (box3)

So what I have is two large black regions on each side and two small black regions top and bottom.

As the orig was SHOT in 16x9, I want to crop out the black, and I should be pretty close to a full sized 16x9.

Does that make any sense?
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Post by Black Lab »

So you just want the video to fill the screen? I am assuming your Project Properties are set for 16:9.

Put the clips in the overlay track. With the clip highlighted, right click the Preview Window. There you will find different options for resizing the clip, including Fit To Screen.
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Post by SimJimJones »

The problem is the clip IS 16x9 and "fills" the screen already. It just has the extra bars I want to remove.
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Hey - I've folled this thread and it answers one question. I have another for you..

I ultimately want to crop a vido to approximately 1/4 of the original sceen and then zoom it to fill the screen (not in motion - just be as though it was how the orifginal was shot).

If I use the 2D - mapping filter to crop the video (stationay and equal at beginning and end) then I can accomplish the first part. Now if I use the fit to frame option when the clip is on the overlay track, then it zooms the highlighted box (larger than the selected cropped video size) to full frame - but a large area opf black is left around the cropped video. is there a way to have X2 act like a cloer in zoom of a portion of the video image?

Thanks,

Todd
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi
In the main track, from the attributes tab use the distort function.

Drag the frame down diagonally to reveal the corner trim bar.
Stretch the corner to resize the video.

Right click the preview screen, select Anchor to Centre/centre.
OR
Doing the same with the clip in the overlay track will allow you to copy and paste the Attributes from the first clip to others. (right click in timeline) (you only have to resize the first.)

Viewing my quick guide to 16:9 from the link below may help.
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Post by backert1 »

OK, Ive tried this every way i can think of. The zoom part warks fine but I cannot get the zoomed video to be full screen. Any other thoughts?

Thanks,

Todd
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

View
16:9~A look at widescreen
from my quick guides, shows how 19:9 looks when using video studio. and explains how to convert the frame size 4:3 to 16:9 and visa versa.
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Post by extremekicks »

I'm using this thread for a recital piece.

Here is why...

The damn photographer was seriously at the base of the stage almost climbing on it to take pictures, I told this schmo ( Brian Mengini ) to back it up some and that we were doing video for the show. He responded ok and then backed off some. Isnt that what telephoto lenses are for? That was right after the first piece. However I now see him throught the whole damn recital. Maybe I'm over reacting I dunno.

I hope I can crop him out well see.
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Post by Clevo »

What I think the OP has is 16x9 in a 4x3 "box" in a project with the settings at 16X9...so what he sees is an complete black around the video...

Either way...fastes way to crop is to put the video in the overlay track and re-size the frame manually so that it fills the screen...you might have to re-size slightly over the edges.... like when you zoon in with a still image
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi extremekicks

As Clevo said, you need to re-size the video manually.

Using later VS versions you can do this in the top track as well as the overlay tracks.
You don¡¦t say what version you are using?

Select the clip in the timeline.
For the top track:-
Select ¡¥Distort¡¦ from the ¡¥Attributes tab.
The preview shows the video with yellow trim bars around the edge,
Drag the video diagonally to revel a corner bar.
Drag the corner to re-size the video. (will keep the video in proportion)
Right click the preview screen and select ¡¥Anchor¡¦- Top - Center to position the video.
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Trevor using VS 11+
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