Problem converting dv/avi files to dvd.

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Post by SF2MJ »

2Dogs wrote:Can you tell us some details of your pc.

What cpu does it have?

How much RAM?

What size hard drive/drives?

How much free space on the drives?


Try playing one of the "blurry" mpeg files whilst running Windows Task Manager in the "Performance" tab and tell us what cpu usage you are seeing.
Amd Athlon 64x Dual core processor 4000+ ,MMX,3Dnow (2cpu)
Ram 894
Graphics ATI Radeon Express 320 mg
Directx 9.0c

I have 17gb free space on c drive right now...and 18gb free on D drive
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skier-hughes wrote:Isn't PAL Mpeg2 upper field first?
Absolutely not if the original is DV AVI which must be LFF. If the original is from an analogue source, then yes, it may be UFF, LFF or FB.

It certainly sounds like a field order problem though. A lot depends on the viewing. If on a computer, then the DVD should be burnt frame-based. If for playing on a DVD player to a TV then it must be correctly field-ordered.
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skier-hughes wrote:Isn't PAL Mpeg2 upper field first?
Graham
Without getting into to much detail. Field Order has nothing to do with Pal or Ntsc.
Field order is related to the source of your video, whether it be Analogue or Digital.
Digital as in DV-Avi uses lower field first.
Capturing from a tv or vhs would normally use Upper Field. (analogue capture)
As the OP is using DV-Avi then lower field should be used throughout.

The introduction of High Definition changes this rule, but that¡¦s another story.
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SF2MJ wrote:Amd Athlon 64x Dual core processor 4000+ ,MMX,3Dnow (2cpu)
Ram 894
Graphics ATI Radeon Express 320 mg
Directx 9.0c

I have 17gb free space on c drive right now...and 18gb free on D drive
And I presume you are running Windows XP.

Nothing wrong with your pc spec.

If your are running Vista, 1Gb of RAM might be considered marginal though it shouldn't be the cause of your blurry problem. With XP, 1Gb is definitely fine. 894 (Mb) is an odd sort of RAM number - though maybe your onboard graphics are sharing RAM and using up 130Mb.

You don't have a lot of hard drive space, though since you already captured the DV avi video, the 13Gb or so it takes up will already be on the hard drive.

Did you keep or delete the DV avi file you created from your project as one of Graham Skier-Hughes' suggested things to try? That file, if 75 minutes long, would amount to over 16Gb.

Is the D: drive another internal drive, or perhaps a partition on an internal drive, or is it an external drive? If it is an external drive, and you had VS output mpeg files to it, you might try some test output to the C: drive to rule out any hard drive data tansfer rate problems.

You could try downloading and running the freeware Sisoft Sandra Lite program, a 17.2Mb download, which you can use to check out your pc setup.

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Post by skier-hughes »

trevor andrew wrote:
skier-hughes wrote:Isn't PAL Mpeg2 upper field first?
Graham
Without getting into to much detail. Field Order has nothing to do with Pal or Ntsc.
Field order is related to the source of your video, whether it be Analogue or Digital.
Digital as in DV-Avi uses lower field first.
Capturing from a tv or vhs would normally use Upper Field. (analogue capture)
As the OP is using DV-Avi then lower field should be used throughout.

The introduction of High Definition changes this rule, but that¡¦s another story.
OK, perhaps I should have said it without the PAL, I only inserted that as the OP is using PAL.

How about this then.

In my opinion it is a field order problem, if the OP tries changing the field order of the mpeg file he may find that it solves his problem.
Perhaps the OP could try this and let us know?

I use dv.avi LFF to edit, but my mpegs always end up as UFF.
I never have any judder problems.
That's where I base my opinion on.

:D
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Post by SF2MJ »

skier-hughes wrote:
trevor andrew wrote:
skier-hughes wrote:Isn't PAL Mpeg2 upper field first?
Graham
Without getting into to much detail. Field Order has nothing to do with Pal or Ntsc.
Field order is related to the source of your video, whether it be Analogue or Digital.
Digital as in DV-Avi uses lower field first.
Capturing from a tv or vhs would normally use Upper Field. (analogue capture)
As the OP is using DV-Avi then lower field should be used throughout.

The introduction of High Definition changes this rule, but that¡¦s another story.
OK, perhaps I should have said it without the PAL, I only inserted that as the OP is using PAL.

How about this then.

In my opinion it is a field order problem, if the OP tries changing the field order of the mpeg file he may find that it solves his problem.
Perhaps the OP could try this and let us know?

I use dv.avi LFF to edit, but my mpegs always end up as UFF.
I never have any judder problems.
That's where I base my opinion on.

:D
Ok i tried the changing the field order and i am still getting a juddering effect.
I just downloaded convertxtodvd .I am going to try converted my completed project which is 15gb into vob files for burning.I will see how that turns out,and if i lose any quality.Because as i stated earlier,when my project is in raw dv/avi format it is perfect.Just like the original dv tape.I am losing quality in the conversion.
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