No 1280 x 720 for Utube widescreen HD

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No 1280 x 720 for Utube widescreen HD

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Utube now has widescreen as well as HD. From my reading the file needs to be 1280px X 720px H.264 format. I go to VS Pro X2 >create file> MPEG4>options>general>frame size¡K. Oh! The highest is 720 x 576. I can not select the User Defined size to the required 1280 x 720. Why?
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Post by Ken Berry »

Please see http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... 3a6#173559 where another user raises this problem.

Unfortunately, the template solution I offered does not seem to work with 1280x720p, though I am still investigating... :roll:
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Post by nzhikozaemon »

An interesting development today - utube now seems to accept 1440x810 and 1920x1080 AVC files and recognize them as HD.

Plus, it shows the higher res HD videos across the width of the page in a new wider player.

I'm trying to confirm that it is cool with MPG files outputted from VS, but it looks like it is now recognizing higher than 720P resolution files, so VS is back to being YouTube friendly now.

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Where did you find that out please

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An interesting development today - utube now seems to accept 1440x810 and 1920x1080 AVC files and recognize them as HD
Could you please give me a link to where this information is?
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1280x720

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After a lot of experimenting I finally got Utube to accept a HD file to make use of the new 1280 x 720 format. Besides VS, you only need the free program Windows Media Encoder.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... fault.mspx
With all your AVCH files in the time line, render the video to WMV HD 1280 x 720 (the file will be very big).
In Windows Media Encoder > Convert File>Select File Download (Computer Play Back)>High Quality Definition Video (5 Mbps VBR 1280 x 720)
In the sample below the file was reduced from 1,222,895 KB to 293,414KB, the video is 7.30 min in length. When you click on ¡¥watch in HD¡¦ you get a large wide screen in HD.
Utube will only accept file size under 1Gig and no longer than 10min.
Hope this helps.
My sample is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghsEGwYSfT0
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That is an impressive picture. 8)
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Absolutely stunning :)
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Post by dalemccl »

tony62, thanks for your effort to figure this out and for sharing how to do it. I enjoyed your video.
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Post by Devil »

Nice shots...BUT...

I can't view it in HD on my 2 Mbit/s ADSL link (and it's working well just now) without buffering pauses for 60-70% of the time, so 7 min 30 becomes nearer 21 minutes. I don't have time to waste like that. In "normal" quality, it plays fine but the actual visual quality is poorer than an ordinary SD upload. This is a real problem that was evoked in the other thread.

IMHO, if you want best quality that is viewable as streaming video by all with ordinary broadband connections, upload to YouTube as SD. You will be able to upload faster, into the bargain. Forget HD because most viewers have the choice of either constantly interrupted video or very poor quality.
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Post by nzhikozaemon »

I was editing in 1080P in VS and then using PowerDirector in the final step to create AVC based HD files but was getting annoying bars show up on the screen when there was too much movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNchX42A_MI

I followed the above instructions to make a 50 second long vid of the most problematic clips from the above video, and they came out beautifully - and all in a video that for 50seconds in length was only 36MB!
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=o1VkMsnaCCc

Obviously, I wish that VS would allow encoding in this manner in a single step, but this is the best and most efficient means of YouTube HD encoding I have found, so thank you so much Tony62 for doing what it seems the good people at Corel still can't!

Incidentally, I realize that many people don't have sufficient bandwidth to comfortably enjoy HD - this is never really an issue in Japan as internet is so fast over here. Has the buffering situation improved at all? I suspect Google would have thrown more servers at the issue to improve streaming for people who are struggling to view these.

Of course ideally, I wish YouTube would allow a choice of Normal/High/HD on all vids - Normal is often horrible to look at, but having a choice of High Quality as an alternative to HD would be good for people with not so great connections.

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Post by Black Lab »

Has the buffering situation improved at all?
Certainly not with this forum! Seems like it's the 90s and I'm back on dial up. :evil:
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Re: 1280x720

Post by KillrBuckeye »

tony62 wrote:After a lot of experimenting I finally got Utube to accept a HD file to make use of the new 1280 x 720 format. Besides VS, you only need the free program Windows Media Encoder.
I think the re-encoding step using Windows Media Encoder is unnecessary. You can make a custom WMV profile in VS that specifies the video bitrate of 5 Mbps, so your exported file will be roughly the same size as the one created using Windows Media Encoder. I discovered this because I was trying to follow your guide, but found that my installation of VS X2 did not have a 720p profile for WMV, so I had to make my own. The options for specifying bitrate are there.
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