Surround Sound not on output DVD

[PatBarr]

I've tried to create a surround sound DVD with no luck. The sound is just stereo. I've created a "test" project to try and get this to work. What I want to test is to have 5 short audio clips and have them play separately from each of the 5 speakers.

I have this designed in the project and when I play it back the surround sound icon moves appropriately to each of the 5 speakers. Of course my PC only has 2 speakers so the sound bounces back and forth between them.

My DVD player supports Dolby Digital 5.1 as does my stero. Commercial 5.1 surround sound DVD's play just fine. When I play my VideoStudio DVD it's only stereo not surround sound.

Any ideas?

P.S. This is a very small VideoStudio project that I could zip and send to anyone who wants to take a look.

Thanks, Pat

[PatBarr]

It's a Blue-Ray DVD in Videostudio. Surround Sound works fine when I create a normal DVD.

[PatBarr]

This info actually goes with another topic so please ignore.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Pat

Ken Berry is probably your man.
There have been some problems with creating a template using DD 5.1,
I think Ken had a file that can be used to make the template.

And yes I would be interested in your project, not that I would be able to do much with it.
But for the sample, that would be good.

[Ken Berry]

Please send me the sample at the email address in my email button below, and I will have a look at it...

[PatBarr]

I tried to play my video with Windows Media Player and it worked fine. Blu-Ray audio was fine. I found out that my version of PowerDVD had to be upgraded from v7 to v9.

It's OK now.

[Ken Berry]

Trevor has unfortunately overstated my abilities in this regard. The method to which he refers in fact relates only to getting HDV (mpeg-2) files to play with 5.1 Dolby audio. Natively, they play only mpeg layer 2 audio. While this may indirectly enable such files to be used for a Blu-Ray disc with 5.1 audio, it does not apply in Pat's specific case.

Incidentally, Pat, you might want to watch your terminology, as it can confuse people (as it did me). You refer in this and other threads to a 'Blu-Ray DVD'. In fact there is no such thing. There is a true Blu-Ray 'disc' (which is not a DVD -- it neither uses a DVD, nor a DVD structure). And these can only be played on a Blu-Ray player. Or you can have an AVCHD hybrid disc, which is high definition burned to a standard 'DVD' disc, but uses a structure similar to a Blu-Ray disc, and like it, can only be played in Blu-Ray player. When I first saw your references to a Blu-Ray DVD' I was assuming you were talking about these hybrid discs, but only later realised you were talking about true Blu-Ray 'discs'...

[laidback]

I intend to - Never ever buy a Blu-Ray disk, and therefore a Blu-Ray Player, as its based on technology relying on moving and or mechanical parts that eventually will fail, the Blu-Ray therefore as far as I am concerned is much like a beta video format..

I now wait on the time when movies will be sold on a medium that is based on memory cards or as such.. and I am convinced the AVCHD format will be utilized, in fact I am using this method for the home movies I produce right now..

I could never work out how to have DD 5.1 burned onto a Blu-Ray disk via a borrowed Blu-Ray Burner, so I am glad I have thus far avoided purchasing a Blu-Ray Burner..

Cheers,

Pete..

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi
I have moved this reply from the locked thread. Add a more details.....

New to X2 and HD (and it probably shows)

I know there are problems in creating a template to Blu Ray DD 5.1
Ken Berry is your man for this template, ( Reading this thread I may have that wrong as well, Its just a learning curve.)

I think I have managed to create one using VS

Pat, gave the clue when he could create a disc using DD 5.1
Instead of creating a disc create a Blue-ray folder.
Change the settings under the ¡¥Options¡¦ cogwheel for Digital Dolby
Burn the folder.

Ok, now I thought this created a ¡¥Blu-Ray disc folder structure¡¦ containing a Blu-ray video file.
Is this correct?

You will find this in My Documents\Corel VideoStudio\12.0\BDMV\STREAM \00000.m2ts
So is this a true Blu-Ray file?
If Yes ......

Use Make Movie Templates Manager to create a template using the 00000.m2ts file.
Using the Add option of the Manager creates your template using Digital Dilby.
This will be available from the Share Create Video File option next to ¡¥custom¡¦
Will this create a Blu-ray video file, I would have thought yes, but the file extension is mpg.

Any how if the burner module produces the correct Blu-ray type in the Stream folder then there¡¦s no need for the movie manager template.

[PatBarr]

As you can tell I just started using a Blu-Ray disk player and decided to create my VideoStudio movies on Blu-Ray because of the hi-def capability. I'm not familiar with AVCHD but it appears these can also be hi-def. Can VideoStudio create these files?

My main issue know is how to include Dolby Digital 5.1 audio on a Blu-Ray disk. On the forum a post was made that talked about creating a movie template so I'll give this is try.

Thanks guys for all your help. Your expertise is greatly appreciated.

Pat

[PatBarr]

I read your comment about never getting a Blu-Ray disk. That's funny because my son-in-law just made the same comment a few weeks ago. You both see a solid state solution and I agree this is coming. Over the years I've migrated from photos on paper, digital images, computer slide shows, photos on CD, and currently DVD's. Now I'm migrating to hi-def Blu-Ray so my photos have better resolution.

Why have I done this over the years? Because I want to be able to share my photos with friends and relatives. Most of them have DVD players and a few have Blu-Ray players.

Having worked in IT for over 30 years there are a couple of things I know to be true. One is if you wait for the newest technology, like solid state AVCHD, you'll never upgrade because the next "newest" technology is just around the corner. The other thing is unless you want lots of hassles and frustrations don't be a pioneer. Let the technology prove itself and stabilize before you jump in, i.e. Vista and Windows 7 are a good examples. When service pack 1 for Windows 7 comes out then I'll upgrade.

Thanks for your comments Laidback.

[sjj1805]

...... I'm not familiar with AVCHD but it appears these can also be hi-def. Can VideoStudio create these files?
......

AVCHD is abbreviated for Advanced Video Codec High Definition
For a more complete explanation Click Here.
VideoStudio can create AVCHD discs.

[laidback]

I read your comment about never getting a Blu-Ray disk. That's funny because my son-in-law just made the same comment a few weeks ago. You both see a solid state solution and I agree this is coming. Over the years I've migrated from photos on paper, digital images, computer slide shows, photos on CD, and currently DVD's. Now I'm migrating to hi-def Blu-Ray so my photos have better resolution.

Why have I done this over the years? Because I want to be able to share my photos with friends and relatives. Most of them have DVD players and a few have Blu-Ray players.

Having worked in IT for over 30 years there are a couple of things I know to be true. One is if you wait for the newest technology, like solid state AVCHD, you'll never upgrade because the next "newest" technology is just around the corner. The other thing is unless you want lots of hassles and frustrations don't be a pioneer. Let the technology prove itself and stabilize before you jump in, i.e. Vista and Windows 7 are a good examples. When service pack 1 for Windows 7 comes out then I'll upgrade.

Thanks for your comments Laidback.

No Probs, BTW have I pointed out how most Personal MP4 H.264 players, Automobile HD Video enabled players, and or even some new home cinema systems are now sold with them having a USB and or SDHC card slot?..

If not maybe I should have, because that's the way the younger generations prefer to manage their Multimedia, well her in oz anyway..

Cheers,

Pete..

[sjj1805]

That sort of thing has gone on for years. The "Latest" thing you purchase that is alleged to be future proof because it has this that and the other "socket" or "connection" - they never (or very rarely) get used because they soon become out of date!

I remember when I bought my first 486 computer with a massive 750 Megabytes of Hard Drive Space. Everyone at my workplace said "You will NEVER fill that!"

[laidback]

That sort of thing has gone on for years. The "Latest" thing you purchase that is alleged to be future proof because it has this that and the other "socket" or "connection" - they never (or very rarely) get used because they soon become out of date!

I remember when I bought my first 486 computer with a massive 750 Megabytes of Hard Drive Space. Everyone at my workplace said "You will NEVER fill that!"

Ah yes that reminds me of the time motherboard and CPU integration took a step backward by the introduction of Slot technology, having me defer to an upgrade to a point where more common sense was returned in the design..

But enough on that, as the resulting storage of multimedia will more or less end up at a stand still, unless another significant advantage comes about..

What is clear at this point is clean crisp images can be produced on massive screens with the current HD video formats, of course new compression routines may need to come about, to which may have today's video having to be re-compressed if they are to fit in what ever hardware media is made available by then..

But having said that, the current trend is hardware memory is exponentially increasing in capacity as its physical size is decreasing, along with the cost in producing the memory, so a new compression may in fact never be needed..

If we consider the current trends - a SDHC card with the capacity of 50 Gbs of data costing under a whopping 5 dollars is not to far away..
as it took just under 5 years for a 512 Mb USB drive costing hundreds of dollars to come down in cost so much so that the smallest usb drive one can find on the market today now is 2 gigs, but costing around a mere five dollars, likewise the SD and its successor SDHC cards are going higher in capacity and respectively are going cheaper, and whats more are still increasing in speed..

While The Blu-Ray can only remain within its current capacity and mechanical limits.. And when one compares size as in portability durability, and reliability its a no brain-er why Blu-Ray is being ignored, given a miss and or deliberate skip by most consumers..

Cheers,

Peter J Schoen