Video Studio Pro X2 - Will not find Panasonic SD9

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I have just burned the project I mentioned above to a TDK +RW disc -- but NOT using VS X2. When I tried, and using Dolby 5.1 at 384 kbps, I also got the 'internal DVD engine error' message, though without any associated numbers. (And I doubt whether anyone here knows what those numbers mean anyway -- they are internal code used by the programmers...) I tried three times, with the same result. But when using Dolby 2 channel stereo, it worked fine.

I then tried with Corel Movie Factory 7.0, inserting the VS project file as the 'video' content. I burned it with the default menu chosen by MF. I unchecked the Do Not Convert box, and changed the burning properties to a bitrate of 18 Mbps. Dolby 5.1 was already there by default. But for a 27 second project, it took an unconscionable time to burn -- a little over 18 minutes. However, it burned, and it all plays back properly. The only very strange thing is that despite my having very carefully changed the bitrate to 18 Mbps, it burned with a max bitrate of 16.8 Mbps. And it did that twice (as I tried it again just to be sure).

I am unable to explain why it burned in MF and not in X2 since I thought the burning engine in both was essentially one and the same.

All I can therefore suggest, if you don't have MF 7, is that you try burning in VS again, but using a bitrate of 16.8 Mbps, and see if that makes any difference. For what it is worth, the quality of the high definition AVCHD seemed very good at that rate...

Forgive me if I don't try that now myself but I have had a very long day and must go to bed... :oops: :roll:
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roma wrote:Did you try create AVCHD-disk on DVD+RW disk?
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Yes but this time when the "Getting ready to eject disc" came up it hung at 99% complete. I left it for over an hour and nothing! It crashed the program but I did not get a "Not responding" message in Task Manager.
Incidently I have searched for the DVD engine message and it appears that most error messages of this sort refer to out of date drivers! Perhaps it might be an idea to see if you have the latest driver for your DVD burner.
Other than this I am lost I'm afraid. My expertise is about 200 years behind Ken Berry who I'm surprised manages to sleep at all the amount of posts he has to his credit on this Forum. And I doubt this is the only Forum he subscribes to. :wink: :wink:
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Post by roma »

Thanks for new information. Good that I am not alone with this error ...
I tried make same scenario under Ulead Video Studio 11 with last service pack and become same error message. I have two different DVD-Writer on two my computers and I am 100% sure, that problem isn't in my DVD-Writers or DVD-Drivers.
I think problem is in AV-Multiplexer. AV-Multiplexer make don't compatible TS-Stream ...
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If I don't place title, my stream be dont' converted and I can create ACVHD-disk without error.
It's ground, that I thinks the problem is in AV-Multiplexer.
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For what it is worth, I have just burned another AVCHD hybrid disc successfully with VS X2, using the following workflow:

I inserted the project into the *Editing* timeline. Then I selected Share > Create Video File > Same As First Video Clip. I checked the properties and they were identical to those of the clip I downloaded. The rendering took nearly 4 minutes.

Then I chose New Project, just to clear the timeline of everything.

Then I selected Share > Create Disc > AVCHD (1920). The burning module opened and I manually inserted the new file I had created. I made sure that 'Do not Convert' was ticked. I added a menu template, and then I went to the final page and burned the disc. No conversion took place, and the multiplexing was very quick (about 40 seconds).

After 4 minutes, 'Preparing disc to eject' appeared, and this remained up to a little over 15 minutes. In fact, it reached 99% by about 7 minutes, and sat there for the remaining 8 minutes. I nearly aborted, thinking it had hung, though the burning light was still showing activity and Task Manager showed relatively low level (around 25%) activity across all four cores of my Quad processor.

Then I got the 'operation successfully completed' message. And when I played the disc it seemed absolutely fine. The high definition was high quality and I could not detect any blips after the transitions.

So there is another workflow you could try.
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Post by roma »

I tryed make AVCHD-disk in two step, but it was without succes.
First i made only AVCD-file with titles: Share > Create Video File > Same As First Video Clip. And second I placed this file on timeline and made chapter.
After I tryed to make AVCHD-disk and become same error "There is an internal error in the DVD engine ..."
If I place original files and make AVCHD-disk with chapter and whitout titles all work fine in one step (whitout any conversion) ...

I am waiting for next service pack ...
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If I make AVCHD disk without titles, it work, but on this disk video is async to audio ...
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Re: Video Studio Pro X2 - Will not find Panasonic SD9

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I have the same problem (internal error in the dvd engine) with the same error code. I also tested it on my latop but no success. My purpose is to create DVD Pal 5.1 down converting the edited video shot with Panasonic HDC-TM300. On the other hand since I spend hours on editing (cutting out the unnnecessary parts and inserting backgroung music in some parts of the whole project) I also would like to create an AVCHD file as an output. After upgrading my computer it would be very useful not editing the original material again just to create a menu and add the avchd files edited and converted previously. I tested it all the way suggested by others in this topic but the result is the same dvd engine error message. I noticed that the problem is really with the DD 5.1. If I don't put any wav background music into the project just having the original sound in DD 5.1 then VS2 creates the AVCHD disc successfully. Let say I use some background music eg. in the beginning of the video then comes a simple cut (no transition effect) and I try to continue with the original 5.1 sound. Creating the avchd disc, when audio and video multiplexing reaches the first point (eg. at 27% of the project) where the background music changes to the original 5.1 sound then comes the error code.

If I create the avchd disc right from the project then it is fine and works well, but first I would like to create an avchd file (exactly lots of different files) so that I can store them. As I mentioned I could just add them later and create my avchd or blue ray disc without editing work again.

I always try to maintain the properties of the original source file (16800kbps, UFF, DD 5.1, 1920x1080, etc.). I do not use Smart Rendering but it doesn't make a difference. As I see the VS2 can not hadle the sound changes from background music to original sound. This is the point when multiplexing audio and video stops and the error meassage appears. Strange but If I do the same from project (.vsp) it works but I do not want to store these projects for months. I would prefer storing the edited and converted and finalized avchd files instead. What is still a problem for me, I am not sure that after upgrading (replacing for a powerful one) my computer and installing VS3 would solve this issue. :(
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What is still a problem for me, I am not sure that after upgrading (replacing for a powerful one) my computer and installing VS3 would solve this issue.
Why not download the trial and try it?
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I am a little bit against of installing VS3 trial. A colleague of mine installed that and it caused two inconvinient problems. VS3 associated all the media files to itself. Uninstalling of VS3 may remove these associations but the original ones won't be restored automatically. That must be done for each and every media player (both image and video) manually in worst case even with reinstallation of those players or in regedit. :!:

Another surprise that VS3 puts a kind of index file (hidden) into each directory that contains any type of media file. Ok, maybe this "indexing" could be removed with one simple dos command afterwards, but this "feature" is not so user friendly. As far as I suppose this "indexing" - I don't know how the VS3 calls it - could be refused during the installation but it is important to be very carefull when and how to do it (so not just "next next next"). :!:

Could anyone please confirm these issues? :?

What is the purpuse of this hidden file and how is it called properly?

I hate flooding my computer with unnecessary eg. registry entries.

By the way if someone doesn't care about it, then the installation (indexing) takes so long of course. :(
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One more thing to worry about. VS3 needs a much more powerful computer than VS2 (just look at the System Requirements).
I have a quite old machine, but don't want to upgrade it just beacause VS2 has a well known bug.
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Check out my computer specs. X3 works fine. It depends more on what you are editing. I definitely could not edit AVCHD, but for DV-AVI it works fine.
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