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capturing analogue video

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:40 pm
by VideoRolf
Hi there,
maybe you remember me. In July I was learning my new program Studio 11.5 capturing HD and in the meantime I produced three fantastic movies in HD quality and burned on Blue-ray. What a result, wow! Really I want to recommend everybody to work with HD if you do have the technical possibilities for it. In the beginning it is not easy but once you got the experience it is quite a result. This forum helped me a lot in the beginning with some questions and I want to thank everybody for that.
But today I do have another question concerning analogue video.
I try to capture old tapes via my old Sony DCR-TRV240E PAL. This camcorder can handle easy analogue as well as digital video, no problem so far.
When I connect to my computer he recognise immediately the cam, so also this is ok.
When I capture in Power Producer itÅ› ok and works, only PP make DAT files which are not supported by VS from Corel.
There must be a possibility to capture into VS 11.5 it is clearly explained in the manual. I followed all steps item by item many times, but I do not arrive.
Only ...... and this is my problem: starting the capturing the program stop automatically after more or less 8 seconds.
I tried everything for hours and hours and I think that I have had all possibilities which the program give as set up.
What do I wrong? Is there anybody who see my mistake?
Please help me, I am desperate because I want to prepare nice movies from my old video films.
Kind regards to all of you and have a nice day :x

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:57 pm
by skier-hughes
This cam is a digital 8, so you are connecting via firewire?
If so, try using movie maker, installed as part of windows and see if that will capture for you.
If so, choose the dv.avi option
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutorial ... DV-AVI.htm
and import into VS while we try to solve your problem.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:58 pm
by Ken Berry
You have made no error. It is the program which is at fault. In fact, with VS11 (and now 12), Corel changed the capture plug-ins which had previously worked with Video Studio to a new, single one called IVI Capture. And it does not work with Sony Digital 8 cameras playing an analogue 8mm or Hi8 tape, or being used as a pass-through device connecting an analogue camera or VCR to your computer, so that you can capture a digital DV video from the analogue source. (It also cannot do that when using a digital DV camera as a pass-through device.) I have a Sony DCR-TRV480E so I am one of the victims.

We drew this fault to the attention of Corel at the time of VS11/11.5+, and they brought out a patch, but it did not fix the problem. We hoped they would have fixed it in VS 12, but that did not happen either.

So I am afraid you have no alternative but to capture using another product: either VS10 or earlier, if you have it; or Windows Movie Maker; or a small freeware product called WinDV (windv.mourek.cz). Any of these will capture DV format fine, and then you simply open those capture files in VS for editing.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:01 pm
by Black Lab
This should explain it: http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... a3052e159f

If you have v10 you can capture analog with your Digital 8 cam.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:02 pm
by Black Lab
Dang, you guys are fast. :shock:

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:05 pm
by VideoRolf
Yes, indead like Black Lab said YOU ARE FAST!
Thanks very much I will try tomorrow (now I am going to sleep, it is 23.10 h here) and will report tomorrow. Anyway I don t have version 10, but will see in Moviemaker.
Thanks very much again (what a great forum) and sleep well
videorolf :D

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 am
by Ken Berry
Just make sure that in Movie Maker, you capture in DV format, and not in .wmv format.

problem solved

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:52 pm
by VideoRolf
Hello,
thanks very much for your help, especially from Ken Berry and Black Label - thanks!
The way via Moviemaker seems not so simpatico to me so I took another way and find the following solution.
I capture the old video 8 or Hi8 tapes with Adobe Premiere Elements and get an AVI file. From PE you can export the files into the MPEG 2 format. This format is easy to read with Video Studio and I could edit my video very easy. Then finalized and burned on DVD = great result. Absolutely no lost of quality. And especially this point was very important for me (I did a proof via Moviemaker and the result was much less so far it concerns the quality)
So I am happy with this solution I found, but it seems to me that you have to go via another software. And this idea came from you.
Finally thanks again to all of you.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:09 pm
by Black Lab
Glad you got it worked out. 8)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:08 am
by Todd_Sandrock
Ken Berry wrote:Just make sure that in Movie Maker, you capture in DV format, and not in .wmv format.
Out of curiosity, why not wmv? Easy of editing after capture?

First post...apologies if misplaced.

Regards.

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:12 am
by Ken Berry
Welcome to the forums! :lol:

It depends on what you want to do with your video. But if you intend making a DVD, you need to avoid .wmv as it is a highly compressed format, and is both slow and sometimes difficult to edit. Capturing to DV format, if you can, is the best. It does not lose quality, and is easy to edit. Then when you are satisfied and can finish editing, you convert it to mpeg-2 which is the format required for burning a video DVD.