Jerky movement on rederet project (and strobe-effect)

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:21 am

I'm still of the opinion that it is something to do with yor project settings, as your capture is fine, it is just your output.
You need to liase with Kena bout what project and output settings he chooses

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:51 am

Again, I can only say I use HDVSplit, and it sounds as though I have much the same workflow as Hessellund. I run VS 11.5+ and X2 (and indeed VS10+) all on a Vista Ultimate computer (system details in System button below). I get no interlacing artifacts at all, either on capture, rendering to a new file or to an AVCHD hybrid disc. If rendering to a new HDV files, I use the same properties as the original, rather than upping the frame size to 1920 x 1080, though I do that if I am converting my HDV to an AVCHD hybrid disc. But again, nothing happens that in any way repeats Hessellund's problem.

And at the risk of repetition, I repeat (!!) that I have not heard anyone else, with a Canon or Sony or other HDV camera, reporting a similar problem here.

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:40 pm

If I'm right Ken, HDVSplit captures the file.
This appears to be working for the OP, as his captured file works fine

It is only when VS renders the file that problems occur. Do you not think that it is a problem with VS, or rather how it is being used as yours works perfectly?

The only other suggestion I can make then is that the OP tries another app, such as adobe premiere elements, pinnacle studio, vegas grab the demo version of it and see how that works.

Hessellund · Post by **Hessellund** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:20 pm

Update...

Ive just installed the trial version og Premier Elements, and that actually renders the same clip that I captured with VS just fine... Although that there was some sort of deinterlacing artefacts on the finished video.

One funny thing... Premier said that the framerate was 29,97 (NTSC) and not 25... Stange?

/Michael

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:05 am

I think you need to check on what the cam is actually recording, if premiere is picking it up as NTSC, are you sure it isn't?
Why are you de-interlacing?

Hessellund · Post by **Hessellund** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:32 pm

Hi.

Ive tried Premier a few times now, and it seems to setect 25fps now. I dont know where it got the 29fps from the first time...

Anyway, Im not deinterlacing, Im just refering to I se som artefacts when I play it back on my mediaplayer on my PC.

/Michael

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:45 pm

When watching an interlaced picture on a pc screen it will not look perfect, always best to check on a tv screen.

Hessellund · Post by **Hessellund** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:19 pm

UPDATE...

I've been fooling around trying to recreate the effect. And Im pretty sure that the ghosting appears do to a deInterlacer a work some where. I've been able to recreate a perfect video, and a ghosting video depending on which deInterlace mode I select in VLC.

The nect step I took was to load Ulead MPEG decoder in graphedit. When playing the source material through Uleads own MPEG decoder, it accually gave me the ghosting effect. And in the filter properties (of Ulead mpeg decoder), I have a option to disable (NOT enable) automatic deinterlacing). When I removed the check from the opption, I saw "perfectly" un interlaced video with NO ghosting.

So now Im pretty sure that it Uleads own mpeg decoder that performs a automatic deinterlacing when rendering.

So my next step is to finde out how to control Ulead own mpeg decoder.

Any suggestions are more then welcome

/Michael

Hessellund · Post by **Hessellund** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:21 am

And yes, another update

I've tried to install the new X2 pro trial edition. And guess what, it renders the HDV interlaced content perfectly...

There's something fishy about that 11,5 plus version I've got...

/Michael

Mikey_BKK · Post by **Mikey_BKK** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 am

I must stick in here, new to this forum since a week back and struggeling with exactly the same problem.

I have a Sony DCR-HC42 PAL DV (tape), Ulead 11 Plus, firewire and 40 tapes of my 4 year old daughter that I will burn to DVD and give my mother. Except that quality is too bad to do this yet... What's happening is exactly the same as in Hessellund's attached picture, anything but a sloow pan creates ghosts of everything

I have tried capturing both via ULead and Sony Vegas, using both DV type 1 and type 2, both ULead and Vegas report zero frames dropped, still, both files show serious schizophrenic symptoms when I preview in ULead or Vegas. The same when I burn DVD from ULead and view it on the TV

But... The 13 gig avi files plays perfectly in Nero ShowTime, not a ghost in sight

Even Windows Media Player does a decent job.

Conclusion: There is nothing wrong with the avi files I have captured. The avi decoder that Ulead use does something that I don't want it to do when it is working with them though.

Now, I can't find anywhere to change this, don't know what to change and change to what.

Grateful for any advice on this
Mikey

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:53 am

Mikey,
Please post your properties for teh imported clip, the project and your exported clip.

If you edit and save the video file as a dv.avi, then author and burn with something like nero/roxio then what is the result like?

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:59 pm

Mikey, maybe you should do what Hessellund has done and try X2 Pro to see if that fixes your problem.

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Jerky movement on rederet project (and strobe-effect)

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