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Royde wrote:Ken

Just to clarify a point

With scart involved I can capture with s-video without any trouble - but it is black and white?
Roy

That is because either the vhs player is not an s-video player, the cables concerned are not s-video or the input to the pc is not s-video.

And as you said your vhs player does not have an s-video connector on it, I must say it isn't an s-video vhs player, so you will always get black and white due to the different way composite and s-video carry the colour signal.

Mind you if you feel capturing in black and white is without any trouble, we're sorted

trevor andrew wrote:Hi Roy

I believe I have a similar problem in capturing S-video in B/K

Only capturing using composite provides colour.

I own a Samsung Pal Combo DVD/VHS player which has S-Video Out socket.
I also have a scart-plug with S-Video connection
Either option produces B/K

I have tried many/many options over as many years but still get B/K

It would be nice to capture in colour just to compare the quality.

My question is:-

Who on the forum can capture using S-Video and achieve colour

Are the tapes you are trying to capture from recorded using s-video?
What is the exact model of the player?
What are you plugging the cable into, exact make and model of capture device?

I can, I use a Sony svhs player, with s-video leads into a canopus break out box connected to a canopus nx capture card and edius 4.61.

Hi Graham

Thanks for the reply, sorry for the lack of detail, I should know better.

The Samsung Combo is a :-
DVD/VCR DUEL DECK
Model:-
SV-DVD1EA

Capture Card using Ati All in Wonder 128 Pro Graphics Card.
The tapes being used (and I have tried several) have not been recorded using S-Video

First of all the Player has not been used for a few years, only to be powered up to assist the OP. My thought was if I can fix mine then I can help others. Problems with S-Video force me to use composite for my analogue capture. That is other than using a camcorders pass through option.

Ok
I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

You commented on tapes being recorded using S-Video.
Are you saying that the tapes have to be S-Video?

I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

That indicates there is only a composite video output from the VHS player. Does the user manual say anything about s-video on VHS playback? It was not normally included on VHS machines but since the s-video facility already exists for the DVD player it would have been quite simple to implement.

Whether the tapes were recorded from a composite or s-video source is irrelevant.

Tom

Hi Tom

Thanks for that, when the player was put in storage so was the manual, unfortunately that¡¦s still in storage, but from what I remember the info on input/output sources was a little lacking.

Since my last post I connected the player to an aerial input, Was able to view some channels in colour some in B/K. So assumed this to be a signal strength problem.

If that¡¦s the case then why the VHS tape problem.

(Hamilton in Brazil winning the racing viewed great, but using composite.)

Would it be better in s-video

I¡¦m not sure it would.

The more I play about the more I think the player is at fault

trevor andrew wrote:Hi Graham

Thanks for the reply, sorry for the lack of detail, I should know better.

The Samsung Combo is a :-
DVD/VCR DUEL DECK
Model:-
SV-DVD1EA

Capture Card using Ati All in Wonder 128 Pro Graphics Card.
The tapes being used (and I have tried several) have not been recorded using S-Video

First of all the Player has not been used for a few years, only to be powered up to assist the OP. My thought was if I can fix mine then I can help others. Problems with S-Video force me to use composite for my analogue capture. That is other than using a camcorders pass through option.

Ok
I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

You commented on tapes being recorded using S-Video.
Are you saying that the tapes have to be S-Video?

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/conte ... XSA-GB.pdf

Odd, the manual makes reference to s-vhs on the remote, but does state that the s-video port is dvd only.

The Ati card is said to have s-video in and out.

To get the best from s-video, you need to have an s-video recorded tape, otherwise you are just showing a composite recording via an s-video cable. Record a vhs to dvd and it doesn't get better.

Remembe s-video is just video, oit doesn't carry an audio signal so you need to connect an audio cable from the decks output to the sound cards input.

Hi Graham

Thanks for the link to the user manual, the original manual will turn up some time, probably when I don¡¦t need it.

The S-Video port being dedicated to DVD only doesn¡¦t really make sense, I would have thought it should output the VHS player as well.

Anyway the more I look at it, the more convinced I am that there is a fault with the unit.
Maybe its time to get the screw-drivers out, I¡¦ll let you know if I have any bits over.

And now I understand your comments regarding S-Video quality.

Thanks again

s-video is a way of carrying colour/chrominance/luminance it has nothing specific to do with vhs, so it is understnadable that the dvd part of the machine can be s-video capable but that the vhs part of the machine is not.

s-video is a way of carrying colour/chrominance/luminance it has nothing specific to do with vhs, so it is understnadable that the dvd part of the machine can be s-video capable but that the vhs part of the machine is not.

VHS (and S-VHS) recorders separate a composite video source into luminance and chrominance before recording and re-combine them into composite on playback, so it is quite simple to implement s-video inputs and outputs.

Tom

True, but my point was that it s-video is not directly related to vhs