VHS CAPTURE PROBLEM WITH S-VIDEO CONNECTION

[skier-hughes]

Ken

Just to clarify a point

With scart involved I can capture with s-video without any trouble - but it is black and white?
Roy

That is because either the vhs player is not an s-video player, the cables concerned are not s-video or the input to the pc is not s-video.

And as you said your vhs player does not have an s-video connector on it, I must say it isn't an s-video vhs player, so you will always get black and white due to the different way composite and s-video carry the colour signal.

Mind you if you feel capturing in black and white is without any trouble, we're sorted

[skier-hughes]

Hi Roy

I believe I have a similar problem in capturing S-video in B/K

Only capturing using composite provides colour.

I own a Samsung Pal Combo DVD/VHS player which has S-Video Out socket.
I also have a scart-plug with S-Video connection
Either option produces B/K

I have tried many/many options over as many years but still get B/K

It would be nice to capture in colour just to compare the quality.

My question is:-

Who on the forum can capture using S-Video and achieve colour

Are the tapes you are trying to capture from recorded using s-video?
What is the exact model of the player?
What are you plugging the cable into, exact make and model of capture device?

I can, I use a Sony svhs player, with s-video leads into a canopus break out box connected to a canopus nx capture card and edius 4.61.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Graham

Thanks for the reply, sorry for the lack of detail, I should know better.

The Samsung Combo is a :-
DVD/VCR DUEL DECK
Model:-
SV-DVD1EA

Capture Card using Ati All in Wonder 128 Pro Graphics Card.
The tapes being used (and I have tried several) have not been recorded using S-Video

First of all the Player has not been used for a few years, only to be powered up to assist the OP. My thought was if I can fix mine then I can help others. Problems with S-Video force me to use composite for my analogue capture. That is other than using a camcorders pass through option.

Ok
I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

You commented on tapes being recorded using S-Video.
Are you saying that the tapes have to be S-Video?

[PidTel]

I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

That indicates there is only a composite video output from the VHS player. Does the user manual say anything about s-video on VHS playback? It was not normally included on VHS machines but since the s-video facility already exists for the DVD player it would have been quite simple to implement.

Whether the tapes were recorded from a composite or s-video source is irrelevant.

Tom

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Tom

Thanks for that, when the player was put in storage so was the manual, unfortunately that¡¦s still in storage, but from what I remember the info on input/output sources was a little lacking.

Since my last post I connected the player to an aerial input, Was able to view some channels in colour some in B/K. So assumed this to be a signal strength problem.

If that¡¦s the case then why the VHS tape problem.

(Hamilton in Brazil winning the racing viewed great, but using composite.)

Would it be better in s-video

I¡¦m not sure it would.

The more I play about the more I think the player is at fault

[skier-hughes]

Hi Graham

Thanks for the reply, sorry for the lack of detail, I should know better.

The Samsung Combo is a :-
DVD/VCR DUEL DECK
Model:-
SV-DVD1EA

Capture Card using Ati All in Wonder 128 Pro Graphics Card.
The tapes being used (and I have tried several) have not been recorded using S-Video

First of all the Player has not been used for a few years, only to be powered up to assist the OP. My thought was if I can fix mine then I can help others. Problems with S-Video force me to use composite for my analogue capture. That is other than using a camcorders pass through option.

Ok
I have an S-Video socket, this appears to output the DVD player only and is ok in colour.

Using a Scart with S-Video connection I can see Colour for the DVD but B/K for the VHS.

You commented on tapes being recorded using S-Video.
Are you saying that the tapes have to be S-Video?

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/conte ... XSA-GB.pdf

Odd, the manual makes reference to s-vhs on the remote, but does state that the s-video port is dvd only.

The Ati card is said to have s-video in and out.

To get the best from s-video, you need to have an s-video recorded tape, otherwise you are just showing a composite recording via an s-video cable. Record a vhs to dvd and it doesn't get better.

Remembe s-video is just video, oit doesn't carry an audio signal so you need to connect an audio cable from the decks output to the sound cards input.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Graham

Thanks for the link to the user manual, the original manual will turn up some time, probably when I don¡¦t need it.

The S-Video port being dedicated to DVD only doesn¡¦t really make sense, I would have thought it should output the VHS player as well.

Anyway the more I look at it, the more convinced I am that there is a fault with the unit.
Maybe its time to get the screw-drivers out, I¡¦ll let you know if I have any bits over.

And now I understand your comments regarding S-Video quality.

Thanks again

[skier-hughes]

s-video is a way of carrying colour/chrominance/luminance it has nothing specific to do with vhs, so it is understnadable that the dvd part of the machine can be s-video capable but that the vhs part of the machine is not.

[PidTel]

s-video is a way of carrying colour/chrominance/luminance it has nothing specific to do with vhs, so it is understnadable that the dvd part of the machine can be s-video capable but that the vhs part of the machine is not.

VHS (and S-VHS) recorders separate a composite video source into luminance and chrominance before recording and re-combine them into composite on playback, so it is quite simple to implement s-video inputs and outputs.

Tom

[skier-hughes]

True, but my point was that it s-video is not directly related to vhs