UVS 8.0 creates an erroneous pal VCD

[jankalp]

I had finished editing of a video file which was copied from Handycam in VCD format on my computer. (I was so happy ) I wanted to make a pal VCD of this edited file and i made it but the length of this pal VCD file was 925 MB. So the problem starts now. I cannot copy this single file on a 700 MB CD. so i opened my UVS 8.0 and again started rendering the edited file but this time half the length. (Actually I deleted the 2nd half and saved the file with another name 'part1'. Then i reloded whole file and deleted the first half and named it as 'part2'). After i finished rendering file part1 i tried to run it. It played smoothly for some time but later it was jumping many frames or pictures or whatever.... I re-tried rendering with all different settings but the error remains. Then i tried rendering part2 video file, this time it was worse . As soon as UVS 8.0 starts rendering a message comes "UVS 8.0 has encountred a problem and will now shutdown......"
I kept doing it several times but the problem persists in both cases(part1 and part2).
Summary: when the whole file is converted in pal VCD it works fine but a Cd cannot be made coz of big length.
When converted in parts it doesn't works.
Can any one suggest me some fixes or some way in which i could make 2 VCDs

[Ken Berry]

The process you are using is essentially correct i.e. splitting your original. But I have one comment and a question. The comment is that I would not capture your original tape using the VCD capture settings. You can, of course, if you want. But it is not wonderful quality -- at best it will be about the standard of a VHS tape. You can also prepare SVCDs though they use MPEG2 format and are much better quality than VCDs, but you can only fit about 40 - 45 minutes on one. But by capturing in better quality MPEG-2 format, you could then store those files until you obtain a DVD burner (as well as burning a VCD or SVCD in the meantime).

As for the quality of your VCDs, my question is what are the exact properties of your captured clip (right click on the icon of your video in the library pane of VS and select 'Properties')? And what are you doing to produce the VCD? Do you simply make your cuts and go directly to burn i.e. Share > Create Disc > VCD? Or do you first produce a VCD-compliant file i.e. Share > Create Video File > VCD, which you can then burn? You should be doing the latter. In either case, have you made any change to the properties which Video Studio uses by default as the template for a VCD?

[jankalp]

The process you are using is essentially correct i.e.
splitting your original. But I have one comment and a question. The comment is that I would not capture your original tape using the VCD
capture settings. You can, of course, if you want. But it is not wonderful quality -- at best it will be about the standard of a VHS tape. You can also prepare SVCDs though they use MPEG2 format and are much better quality than VCDs, but you can only fit about 40 - 45 minutes on one. But by capturing in better quality MPEG-2 format, you could then store those files until you obtain a DVD burner (as well as burning a VCD or SVCD in the meantime).As for the quality of your VCDs, my question is what are the exact properties of your captured clip (right click on the icon of your video in the library pane of VS and select 'Properties')? And what are you
doing to produce the VCD? Do you simply make your cuts and go directly
to burn i.e. Share > Create Disc > VCD? Or do you first produce a
VCD-compliant file i.e. Share > Create Video File > VCD, which you can
then burn? You should be doing the latter. In either case, have you made
any change to the properties which Video Studio uses by default as the
template for a VCD?

Firstly, thanks Ken for all of your suggestions and efforts to understand and comprehend my problem. I would definitely be using a MPEG-2 format for capturing now onwards. But since i have already edited my present project completely (which nearly took me a decade ) i cannot recapture and edit it all over again (couldn't even dare to think of it)
I usually create VCD by first producing a VCD-compliant file, exactly as u said.
But there was one thing i changed by going into 'Make Movie Manager'. I changed the quality level to 100 from 70 (default) of Pal VCD settings.
But I have had no problems in the past with either of the settings, as always my video length would be less than an hour. This is the first time i'm encountering a video length this big (1 hr. 40 min.) (at least for me, a beginner , its big).
Moreover, if i copy a particular clip from this file and paste it in a new fresh project then it works absolutely fine after Pal VCD is being made whatever may be the settings.
There is One more important thing i would like to say about how i started
project. At very beginning i had three video files each corresponding to a full DV tape of one hour. I mearged all 3 files in one project and
started editing and cutting. Finally, the entire project was reduced to 1hr 40min duration. Now to make 2 VCDs I parted the project into two as mentioned earlier. The partition was made somwhere in middle of the timeline at about 50 min. So do u think it will help if the partition is made somewhere at the junction of the 2 files of those three original files where actual ending or starting takes place??

The following are the properties of my ONE OF THE 3 captured video
files. The properties for all r same except that the size, total frames
and duration changes.

File Format: PAL VCD

Video type: MPEG-1 Video
Total Frames: 93,773 Frames
Attributes: 24 Bits, 352 x 288, 4:3
Frame rate: 25.000 frames/sec
Data rate: 1150 kbps

Audio type: MPEG Audio Layer 2 Files
Total samples: 165,415,572 Samples
Attributes: 44100 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo
Layer: 2
Bit rate: 224 kbps

[GeorgeK]

Hi,

this is a simple suggestion that I have used when caught with the same problem, it may just work for you too.

Using your original work of the very large file (I sure hope you did not delete this, and do have a back up , I have learned to do this, most of the time, anyway). Then go to the "Share" tab, Select Create Disk, on the Project slider set the Project Markers so that you select enough of the video that will fit on a VCD or whatever medium your burning to, then burn this portion of the video. If this works, go back, select the other half of you project, and then burn that part.

George.

[jankalp]

Hi! I'm already through with this and it doesn't help.
Hardware:
P4 3 GHz
512 MB of DDR400 RAM
Fire-Wire for capturing
10 GB of dedicated hard disk space for video studio

[jankalp]

UHh!! It seems to me that this is a grave problem and nobody, nobody atleast on earth have solution to my problem. I am unable to create proper working VCD. So now i have downloaded UVS 9.0 trial version. It made me happy for a while with its good looking features and more happy when i succeeded in makin part 1 or first half VCD through 'create disc' option in which i draged marker on time line and selected only half the time period of entire project. To my suprise it worked. but again when i tried same for my second half once again the same old problem emerged i.e. jumping or skiping frames. as the video reaches to its end it skips more frames and by the time i reached to the end of movie it looked like i was only watching photos through slide show. This is really frustrating. Not even the latest version could get rid of this bug (I think this is the biggest bug in in UVS...,all version)!!!
Can somebody still help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!