VS pro X2: AVCHD/MPEG render speed?
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:15 pm
I happily downloaded the trial of X2, to check out the new features, especially the vaunted quad-core support for rendering, and other speed improvements.
I have a Q6600 quadcore @2.4GHz, running at 1066FSB & 2GHZ DDR2 RAM at same speed, on WinXP MCE... not the top-line quadcore, but pretty good.
I wanted to post some of my speed comparison tests, and ask others what they have seen; since while some things are faster, the rendering appears NOT what Corel advertised.
I have noticed that many operations do seem significantly faster than 11.5+, especially selecting clips in the timeline, the Share-Create video dialog, and loading in many HDV transport stream clip files into the library (2:28 for X2 for 64files, vs 3:31 for 11.5+, but this is still annoyingly slow..)
I made a sample HD project w/ 5minutes of HDV files in timeline, and rendered test AVCHD video file w/ matching res, 1440x1080, default 15Mbps, trying both 70% and 100% quality...
It took ~18minutes to render the 5minute AVC video; CPU usage was around 65%, evenly spread on 4 cores. This is >3.5X slower than realtime.
The announcement/advertisement said that rendering a 30minute AVCHD video, took 32mins in X2, vs 2:27hrs in 11.5+? That doesn't seem to match...
maybe they were talking about "smart-rendering" an existing AVCHD timeline/video file, or?
Also: I tested the same project/render on 11.5+, and it took the same time!! (and this is vaguely close to what I recall as well..)
Is this because the X2 install updated the shared MPEG.Now render engine, or is my X2 slow, or what?
I tried simply rendering an HDV program-stream file (eg just re-wrapping the MPG to PS, not TS), and that was a bit faster than real-time, 4:41, CPU usage ~35% on all 4 cores. Seems very slow just for a re-wrapping of MPG2 TS->PS?!! (Again, this was identical on VS11.5+?)
I also tried rendering a DVD MPG2, 5.5Mbps 100% quality, and HDV-DVD took 8:56min, ~35% cpu/4cores; 1.8x slower than realtime. This seems a bit slow?
I tested in VS11.5+, and X2 is faster for HDV-DVD: 11.5+ took 11:52, ~30% cpu less evenly across 4 cores, eg 2.4x slower than realtime.
Edit: In comparison, VS X2 Pro rendered a 4:3 DV timeline 5min project, to the same DVD MPG2 5.5MBps in under 2minutes, w/ ~75% cpu even across 4 cores.
So DV->DVD is over 2.5x FASTER than realtime, so that's very good; but I don't have much SD content any more...
VS11.5+ rendered the same in 2:30, w/ 55% cpu (saturating only 2 cores), so VS X2 clearly showed some improvement for SD MPG, 25% faster than VS11.5 (on quadcore).
What do others see, and is this as fast as expected, or?
Edit
I have a Q6600 quadcore @2.4GHz, running at 1066FSB & 2GHZ DDR2 RAM at same speed, on WinXP MCE... not the top-line quadcore, but pretty good.
I wanted to post some of my speed comparison tests, and ask others what they have seen; since while some things are faster, the rendering appears NOT what Corel advertised.
I have noticed that many operations do seem significantly faster than 11.5+, especially selecting clips in the timeline, the Share-Create video dialog, and loading in many HDV transport stream clip files into the library (2:28 for X2 for 64files, vs 3:31 for 11.5+, but this is still annoyingly slow..)
I made a sample HD project w/ 5minutes of HDV files in timeline, and rendered test AVCHD video file w/ matching res, 1440x1080, default 15Mbps, trying both 70% and 100% quality...
It took ~18minutes to render the 5minute AVC video; CPU usage was around 65%, evenly spread on 4 cores. This is >3.5X slower than realtime.
The announcement/advertisement said that rendering a 30minute AVCHD video, took 32mins in X2, vs 2:27hrs in 11.5+? That doesn't seem to match...
maybe they were talking about "smart-rendering" an existing AVCHD timeline/video file, or?
Also: I tested the same project/render on 11.5+, and it took the same time!! (and this is vaguely close to what I recall as well..)
Is this because the X2 install updated the shared MPEG.Now render engine, or is my X2 slow, or what?
I tried simply rendering an HDV program-stream file (eg just re-wrapping the MPG to PS, not TS), and that was a bit faster than real-time, 4:41, CPU usage ~35% on all 4 cores. Seems very slow just for a re-wrapping of MPG2 TS->PS?!! (Again, this was identical on VS11.5+?)
I also tried rendering a DVD MPG2, 5.5Mbps 100% quality, and HDV-DVD took 8:56min, ~35% cpu/4cores; 1.8x slower than realtime. This seems a bit slow?
I tested in VS11.5+, and X2 is faster for HDV-DVD: 11.5+ took 11:52, ~30% cpu less evenly across 4 cores, eg 2.4x slower than realtime.
Edit: In comparison, VS X2 Pro rendered a 4:3 DV timeline 5min project, to the same DVD MPG2 5.5MBps in under 2minutes, w/ ~75% cpu even across 4 cores.
So DV->DVD is over 2.5x FASTER than realtime, so that's very good; but I don't have much SD content any more...
VS11.5+ rendered the same in 2:30, w/ 55% cpu (saturating only 2 cores), so VS X2 clearly showed some improvement for SD MPG, 25% faster than VS11.5 (on quadcore).
What do others see, and is this as fast as expected, or?
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