New VS PRO X2 with the same old capture problem!!!

[Ken Berry]

The only reasons why you were not able to capture from your mini DV camera using firewire would have been either a faulty firewire cable, or a fault either with your Firewire capture card in the computer or with the Firewire connection on the Sony. Lots of people capture DV via Firewire all the time with VS11/11.5+, as I am sure they will be in X2. I can certainly use Firewire successfully for standard definition capture in X2 with my standard def Canon mv930i video camera; and it also works with my Canon HV20 high definition camera which also uses Firewire.

Can you confirm that you were actually using the Sony's firewire connection (called the i-Link by Sony) and not the mini-USB connection? To those not used to them, they can look similar. Moreover, no firewire cable ever comes with the camera, yet a USB cable is always provided. I have never understood why...

[DarthDennis]

I have a non digital Sony HI-8 camcorder. Does the capture in VS x2 work with that?

I've read the thread and it seems it's the digital cameras with non digital tapes causing the issue and I don't have the digital camera part. Not sure if it makes a difference or not.

[JamesRoyal]

The problem is not my cable, capture card, or anything else. The problem is with UVS software. I can capture AVI video just fine with other software on the same computer. It worked fine on UVS up to V10 after that it doesn't work anymore. So I must capture the AVI files with other software. Yes I am using Firewire. Not USB.

The only reasons why you were not able to capture from your mini DV camera using firewire would have been either a faulty firewire cable, or a fault either with your Firewire capture card in the computer or with the Firewire connection on the Sony. Lots of people capture DV via Firewire all the time with VS11/11.5+, as I am sure they will be in X2. I can certainly use Firewire successfully for standard definition capture in X2 with my standard def Canon mv930i video camera; and it also works with my Canon HV20 high definition camera which also uses Firewire.

Can you confirm that you were actually using the Sony's firewire connection (called the i-Link by Sony) and not the mini-USB connection? To those not used to them, they can look similar. Moreover, no firewire cable ever comes with the camera, yet a USB cable is always provided. I have never understood why...

[Ken Berry]

DarthDennis -- with an analogue camera, you have to use either an external capture device or a capture card (usually a TV/capture card) built into your computer. And with either, depending on the brand and model, you may need to use the software which came with the device to capture, then open the captured video in VS for editing.

JamesRoyal -- well what can I say? There are an awful lot of mini DV camera owners out there, including many Sony mini DV camera owners, who capture successfully to DV via firewire with all versions of VS up to and now including X2. I can think of no reason why your camera in particular would not work the same as everyone else's... And if it were a bug, I suspect we would have been deluged with complaints over a long period, but we haven't. The only complaints have been from users who were using the USB cable, or else had physical problems, as it turned out, with their firewire connection (cable or at computer or camera end).

I know it's probably not what you want to hear, but a lot of us in any case -- even though we can successfully capture DV in VS -- use a small freeware program called WinDV for our DV captures because it does it so well, with no dropped frames. Then we simply open the captured DV in VS for editing. So it sounds as though you already have this sort of work-around anyway.

[JamesRoyal]

Thanks Ken. I agree it is odd. I can live with this problem since I can capture video ok with other software.

[DarthDennis]

Thanks for the reply. My Sony has an iLink plug on it? I don't remember it coming with software. But it is about 7-8 yrs old

DarthDennis -- with an analogue camera, you have to use either an external capture device or a capture card (usually a TV/capture card) built into your computer. And with either, depending on the brand and model, you may need to use the software which came with the device to capture, then open the captured video in VS for editing.

[Ken Berry]

If it has an i-Link connection, then it is not an analogue camera. It is probably a Digital 8. Can you give us a model number, please? If so, it will capture from your digital tapes filmed with it, but you will have trouble capturing analogue tapes if you had an analogue camera before that one, unless you use the digital 8 as a pass through device.

[wreelsw@comcast.net]

FYI... I received an email from Lili Chin who is part of the TS team for Corel. Lili sent me a link with a new build of 'IviAvCtl.dll' to test. Unfortunately the download of the 78 mb file is taking for ever since the FTP server is only giving me 29 kbps download. By the time it finishes I will need to leave for work so I'll need to test it tonight when I get home. I will see if it fixes the problem and send my results back to the TS team. I'll let you guys know the outcome as well.


God bless,

wreelsw

[JamesRoyal]

Is that a dll file for a Firewire connection issue? If so, are you having the same problem I am? I'd be interested in hearing if that file corrects your problem and if it does I'd like to get a copy of it too!

[dhudder]

The latest IviAvCtl.dll kindly released here:

Please download the "IviAvCtl.dll" file from here|:
http://www.humyo.com/F/6113409-204875689

fixed MOST of the connectivity and capture problems when using VS Pro X2 to capture DV Type 1 using Firewire (i.Link) from a Sony Handycam DCR-TRV460 using a Hi8 tape for playback. I can even preview the tape, something that VS 10 couldn't do. Only one small problem, the capture stops after 9 seconds, consistently. The captured file is fine, except its only 9 seconds long. This still works in VS 10. Just doesn't work in VS 11, 11.5 or VS Pro X2.

So, there has been some significant improvement done to make IviAviCtl.dll interoperate with Sony i.Link when previewing the playback of Hi8 tapes, but the actual capture operation still fails. The captured file is no longer flagged as "corrupted" and then deleted. Also, frame drop rates have been greatly improved. Obviously, the problem is being worked on. I just don't know when this problem will finally be fully resolved.

Thanks to the site admin for posting the latest DLL!

[Ken Berry]

Please do not double post. It only confuses things when people reply to both threads. See my response to your original post at http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 345#168345

[dhudder]

Ken,

My reply here was in answer to a different question. Specifically, where to get the updated dll. Per your suggestion, I removed any mention of a request for support from Corel.

Thanks.

[macketb]

I too have VS Pro X2 and when trying to capture video from my Sony DCR-TRV320E using firewire I get the infamous captured failed msg.
Come Corel it is abot time to put out a fix for this. I have Vs 11 and 11.5 both failing in the same way. I had hoped that X2 would by now have resolved this issue. Regards Bruce

[wreelsw@comcast.net]

Guys, it's been a slow go at it. I've been working with Corel Support on this and this is still a WIP. They had me send them the capture plug-in for VS 10 (which works fine) a month or so ago. I got an email a few days ago that had a plug-in attached that was supposed to allow me to use a modified version VS 10's capture plug-in but it didn't work for me. I'm waiting to hear back from Corel Support.
Peace Out...