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VS10 Freezes during Capture from Sony HC96E

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:21 pm
by RDK45
Hi Folks.....I have a Sony HC96E Handicam (France, PAL) which, among other things I use (or at least want to use) to transfer PAL VCR tapes to my PC. I have done this for years with my Sony Handycam DCR TRV 330 (USA, NTSC, 5+ years old), but now in France and PAL is the operational format.

The problem is that when I try to use the pass through mode to VS10+ it freezes immediately when I click the capture video button (and it finds the Sony IEEE input). I mean freezes, I have to hold down the power button for several seconds to force a shutdown and the again to restart it.

Interestingly, the same set up works just fine going to my laptop using VS9. Tomorrow I will perhaps install VS10+ or VS11+ on that laptop just to see if they work there, but in the long term that is not a solution as there is not sufficient hard drive space to do any significant transfers.

By the way, the Sony TR330 still works fine on the same PC that fails with the Sony HC96E.

VS11.5+ also does not work, it just doesn't even see the camera.

I suspect that there is driver problem, but which one and how do I find/find it?

I'm running a ASUS P4P800 E Deluxe with Intel 865 PE and ICH5R Chips Motherboard, 2 GB memory, Intel P-4 2.80 GHz CPU, Radeon 7000 Video card, AND a zillion GB of hard disk space.

Thanks for any ideas...RDK

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:38 pm
by Ron P.
'm running a ASUS P4P800 E Deluxe with Intel 865 PE and ICH5R Chips Motherboard, 2 GB memory, Intel P-4 2.80 GHz CPU, Radeon 7000 Video card, AND a zillion GB of hard disk space.
...and Vista perhaps? Well even if it is XP, starting with the Vista Patch for VS10, and now of course for VS11, the capture plug-in was changed. It used to be the VFW/DS, which done an excellent job of handling the analog to digital pass-through. However the new "IVI" created by Intervideo, does not. Most of the problems were corrected by installing the Update pack. You should be able to capture your VCR tapes using the camcorder as pass-through A-D conversion. Using analog Hi-8 tapes in a digital-8 camcorder however still fails.

Well re-reading your post, the update pack is for VS11+. Corel does not address the problem created once the Vista Update is installed for VS10+.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:17 pm
by Ken Berry
The work-around that those of us similarly affected use is to either capture via Firewire using Windows Movie Maker (in DV format, not wmv), or else use a small freeware program called WinDV from www.mourek.cz In fact, a number of us use that in preference to VS or MSP captures anyway. Then just open the captured DV in VS for editing.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:47 am
by RDK45
Thanks guys.....It is XP Home and not Vista. I will be uninstalling both VS10+ and VS11+ today and reinstalling VS10+. However since vs10+ was an upgrade version, I have to first reinstall VS8 which I will then uninstall.

Not sure it I will reinstall VS11+ right away??

And I have downloaded WinDV which I will also be testing. Any issues with PAL vs NTSC source?

Thanks again....Rob

ps....Perhaps I will put VS11+ on my wife's new Centrino Duo 2 HP laptop???

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:38 am
by Ken Berry
I think with VS10, you only had to put in the serial number of the previous version, rather than have it installed. Anyway, you will soon see...

No problems with PAL/NTSC and WinDV. A number of us here use it successfully and we come from both PAL and NTSC countries.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:32 am
by sjj1805
If you don't have a problem with hard drive space then you can keep your previous versions on your computer all at the same time. I deliberately install the older versions for trouble shooting purposes on this Web Board - see my signature below. In your situation you can use an older (unpatched) version to do the capture, then use a newer more up to date version to perform your editing.

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:09 am
by RDK45
Thanks again guys.

I was concerned that perhaps having both VS10+ and VS11+ on the same machine was contributing to my problems. Driver/Plug-in conflicts.

But if it works for you then I will probably just install and test WinDV. If it works ok then I'm back in business.

Thanks and have GREAT days.....RDK

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:00 pm
by RDK45
WINDV is a neat little program. It worked just fine and now I'm editing and encoding tapes again. THANKS

However, and I will start a new thread with this, now neither VS10+ or VS11+ see my DVD writer. Now I have not burned a DVD with Visual Studio for several months so I can not answer the question "What have you done recently" since SP3 and a host of other things have happened to this PC. Other programs SONIC and Windows do recognize the DVD writer!

having fun yet.....RDK