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Problem I Have

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:10 pm
by SteveQ
I am having a serious problem and i'm hoping I have not lost hours of work.

I am making a music video and have all my clips, now I have managed to get the music track where it should be. The video however refuses to play in the time line. Its just a black screen, the music track plays though just not the video. If I stop/pause the playback the video can be seen, it can also be watched if I go to Share ->Project Playback.

What am i to do?

I seriously do not want to start from scratch, I have saved my project too as I always do these days. Technology just aint as good as it used to be :lol:

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:13 pm
by Black Lab
To help us help you please answer the following:

Properties of your source files (format, file size, where did you get it):

What devices are involved and their mode of connection (i.e. dv cam via firewire):

Project Properties (File > Project Properties):

PAL or NTSC:

Error Codes (if any):

Product Version: e.g. VS10 or VS11+

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:29 pm
by Ken Berry
And if you are in Audio view, and have the audio track selected/highlighted, then as far as I am aware, that will only play the audio track without the accompanying video. So you need to go back to one of the video views (storyboard or timeline) and play it from there.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:17 am
by SteveQ
Black Lab wrote:To help us help you please answer the following:

Properties of your source files (format, file size, where did you get it):

What devices are involved and their mode of connection (i.e. dv cam via firewire):

Project Properties (File > Project Properties):

PAL or NTSC:

Error Codes (if any):

Product Version: e.g. VS10 or VS11+
VS11+

The source files are as follows:

Video 1 is avi and its file size is 22,009kb
Video 2 is avi and its file size is 23,133kb
Audio is mp3 and its 5.79mb

They were sent to me via email.

There is no additional devices being used.

The file properties are:

PAL (25 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo

The size is 58.5kb

There is no error codes. Video format is PAL.

Also @ Ken, thats what I did have selected, timeline so thats why I was confused. Also i have re-installed the app and its fine now but I still need to know a fix just incase it occurs again.

:)

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:38 pm
by SteveQ
Ok the problem has re-surfaced and I am getting highly frustrated with it as Im losing hours of work. Please can some one tell me a fix.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:25 pm
by LGO
Ken's suggestion was the first thing I thought of (before seeing his reply) when I read your initial posting.

I'll be honest, there are times when VS starts acting hinky on me and I will simply save the project I'm working on (I use "01", or "02", etc. at the end of the project file name so I don't overwrite a saved project version that I know is good), exit VS, open VS, and call up the last saved version of the project. That fixes many, many problems. Some are stubborn though, and require a system re-boot to clear it.

I've been using VS since 1998, actively since 2000. Despite being on ver. 10+ now, those suggestions I listed above still fix 95% of the problems I encounter with VS. Maybe a bit more.

Good luck,

LGO

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:27 pm
by Black Lab
The source files are as follows:

Video 1 is avi and its file size is 22,009kb
Video 2 is avi and its file size is 23,133kb
Audio is mp3 and its 5.79mb
AVI is just a container format that can literally be 100's of different kinds of formats. Please right click on the two different clips and list ALL their properties.

I suspect that they are DivX or one of the other highly compressed formats that were designed for viewing, not editing. If that is the case you would be better off converting them to a format that is more easily editable.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:40 pm
by SteveQ
Their compression is WMVideo Decoder DMO.

That makes them WMV AVI and not DivX.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:21 pm
by sjj1805
Image

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:47 pm
by Black Lab
OK, then they are a highly compressed type that is more for viewing than editing. Try converting them with Super.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:01 am
by SteveQ
sjj1805 wrote:Image
Thats what I have done and there was no change, hence why I posted here. :|
Black Lab wrote:OK, then they are a highly compressed type that is more for viewing than editing. Try converting them with Super.
I converted them to that that from FLV files.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:39 am
by Ron P.
Some formats are just plain stubborn and difficult to convert, and FLV is one. I've had similar issues with trying to convert FLV, or SWF files. This is partly due to the lack of a standard. Try doing a Google search for some other converters, maybe geared more toward specifically converting Flash to AVI.

One such program that should handle the conversion would be Adobe's (formerly Macromedia) Flash authoring program. However it is a real expensive program. I have a less expensive flash authoring application, and it even has problems with some SWF or FLV files.

Also with SUPER, have you tried converting it to some other format than WMV, which most of the time should use the WMV extension and not the AVI, not to say that it can not. Try converting it to MPEG-2, maybe SUPER can do a better job with that...